goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 19 Mar 2016 18:40
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Hays and Manuel.
Do you mean you prefer a PM who puts his balls in a Pigs head and sniffed in the Bullingdon Club?
The tories and split and in disarray and manage out of self-interest!
A superficial party at the moment, more interested in packaging than content!
cynic
- 19 Mar 2016 19:41
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i think both parties are currently pretty disgraceful .... but as you don't bother to vote i don't know why you should care
grannyboy
- 19 Mar 2016 22:44
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Haystack(69162) "Cameron said in January and this month that he would remain as PM if we vote out"
Before the Scottish Independence referendum 'Dave' said the same thing publicly, but an insider stated afterwards that if the result had been for independence then cameron would have resigned, because he didn't want to be a British PM to oversee the break up of the UK..
Fred1 (69163) "and who the hell would want to be PM if the vote is for exit?"
Someone who puts this country's sovereignty and democracy and independence above that of Brussels political project... Certainly not your camerons or osborne's...
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"5-10 years of confusion."
Only IF the trade negotiations were left to cameron...But that would'nt occur because cameron and osborne would both resign if the vote was for LEAVE...GOOD RIDDANCE!!....
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"and the more sensible will vote to stay in the EU"
Believing that the more sensible will vote to stay in the EU, bellies the idea that they're sensible and that it's the LEAVERS that're the intelligent one's ......
MaxK
- 20 Mar 2016 00:24
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Of course, nothing to do with the influx....
A&E now 'overwhelmed' says top doc as he calls for army of medics to be sent in
Exclusive: Britain's most senior A&E doctor says a crisis in casualty departments is escalating rapidly, with risks to safety amid desperate shortages of medics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/laura-donnelly/12198069/AandE-now-overwhelmed-says-top-doc-as-he-calls-for-army-of-medics-to-be-sent-in.html
grannyboy
- 20 Mar 2016 08:44
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That top doctor should know one of the reason A&E are being overwhelmed and are short of medics, is that a lot of the doctors and nurses are doing the nursing in refugee camps all round europe, instead of being in hospitals in this country...
The same happened with the ebola outbreak in Africa, NHS staff went out there.
Fred1new
- 20 Mar 2016 08:46
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VICTIM
- 20 Mar 2016 08:52
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You nob Freda cocked this page up again .
iturama
- 20 Mar 2016 08:56
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A major reason A&E's are packed are because people are bypassing doctors surgeries and going straight to A&E. Various reasons for this: long waiting times, not on doctors lists or can't speak English.
I visit my doctor's surgery very infrequently but when I do, the visit is rarely satisfactory. I can understand why people don't bother.
cynic
- 20 Mar 2016 09:33
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i agree with the first part, but generally not with the last
that said, i had to throw a tantrum when i wanted a cholesterol test, merely as a check rather than because i had been instructed to do so
apparently i should have had a (total waste of time) doc's appt first
mind you, with modern accurate electronic stuff, certainly heart monitoring can be done at home by those who wish ..... i dare say other basic checks will also be possible in the near future too - eg are you pregnant?
MaxK
- 20 Mar 2016 10:19
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Well, it looks like Dunky Smiff has done for George, Cameroon next?
What a shame we don't have an effective opposition party.
Fred1new
- 20 Mar 2016 10:23
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Vicky,
You are so short sighted that I enlarged the cartoon just for you!
iturama
- 20 Mar 2016 10:45
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As an example, I had an in-growing toe nail that was swollen and bleeding. I went to my doc who made an appointment for some weeks in the future at my local hospital. He also prescribed antibiotics for the swelling.
I went home, googled a chiropodist and saw him the following day. I didnt bother going to the chemist for the antibiotics.
When the appointment time came around some weeks later I decided to attend, as much out of courtesy, and to have the toe checked. I told the hospital doctor that I couldn't wait and had attended a private clininic. His advice was next time come straight to us and ignore the doctors appointment time.
Fred1new
- 20 Mar 2016 12:42
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Hays,
Still waiting to hear from you the spin from Con PHQ or No 10 on IDS and the split in the con party.
I thought you wrote that Osborne presented a "good budget"!
Fred1new
- 20 Mar 2016 16:24
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12199111/John-Major-Voting-to-leave-will-poison-Europe-and-divide-West.html
By John Major10:00PM GMT 19 Mar 2016
This June, the UK will vote upon whether to leave or remain in the EU. This vote will be momentous. It will decide Britain’s place in the world for generations to come.
There are many positive reasons for membership.
When we joined the EU we were the “sick man” of Europe: today, as a result of our domestic reforms and membership of the European Single Market, we have the best performing economy in Europe.
Within the next 20 years – on present policies, and with continuing full access to the Single Market – the UK is likely to be the biggest economy in Europe.
And surely – in a global market drawing ever closer together – it is verging on the reckless for us to seek divorce from the world’s pre-eminent trading bloc?
On issues such as the environment, climate change, internet costs and consumer protection, the UK can best progress – or sometimes only progress – in unity with our fellow Europeans.
In an uncertain world the UK, as part of the EU, is better able to face up to the aggressive policies of hostile nations. We are safer, because the EU has brought together former enemies to face common perils. In the last thousand years of history, no previous generation has been so fortunate.
It would be sheer folly to put this all at risk.
Read on>
grannyboy
- 20 Mar 2016 19:54
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What utter nonsense from an ex pm and massive PRO-europhile sycophant, who called some of his fellow eurosceptics tory's, bast***d's...
The trade with the EU is falling, its stagnating...We run a deficit with the eu..They sell us billions more then we sell them, they need us more then we need them...500 million market place compared with 1.5 billion in the COMMONWEALTH and ++ the rest of the world.....
And ALL those climate change, environment, projects comes at a cost....Billions of pounds paid for the privilege of being a member...Higher energy cost..Most of the rules coming from Brussels....Massive loss of sovereignty and democracy....Open porous borders...50% under 25's unemployment in Southern europe, with civil unrest and abuses and rapes by immigrants....
Yes we should all think ourselves lucky....NOT!!
Chris Carson
- 21 Mar 2016 07:32
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'NHS spent £181,000 treating just one illegal immigrant'
Leading cancer specialist claims migrants are putting "unsustainable" strain on NHS
By Telegraph reporters
4:12AM GMT 21 Mar 2016
A hospital spent £181,000 treating a single illegal immigrant, it was reported on Sunday night.
Details of the patient’s bill emerged amid claims that the NHS was failing to collect millions of pounds from foreign nationals using its services.
And a leading cancer specialist said no healthcare system could cope with the strain the NHS was put under by treating migrants, saying it was "absolutely unsustainable".
Portsmouth Hospitals Trust spent £181,000 treating just one illegal immigrant, according to The Sun.
Another patient, from Ghana, was reported to have been deported before a £42,000 bill was paid, leaving East and North Hertfordshire Trust to foot the bill.
It was claimed the Guy’s and St Thomas’s Trust in London wrote off £5.1 million treating patients from overseas, and unpaid bills cost Barts Health Trust £268,000.
Professor Angus Dalgleish, of St George’s, University of London, who stood in last year's General Election for the UK Independence Party, told The Sun: "What is the point of making all these terrible cuts to services when you’re not chasing the money you’re owed?"
"I know of very ill individuals who have arrived for treatment from other countries and gone straight into intensive care costing thousands of pounds a day. When I started in cancer treatment a course of drugs cost around £1,000. Now it’s £60,000 to £100,000.
"The cost is huge. No other healthcare system in the world could cope with it and the abuse of this system must be stopped."
In one notorious case, Homerton University Hospital, in east London, failed to chase up a bill of £145,000 it should have charged to a Nigerian woman who had quintuplets after travelling to Britain.
Bimbo Ayelabola, 37, underwent a complex caesarean section in 2011 but did not pay any of the cost of the operation and neo-natal care for her five babies.
The case followed claims by NHS whistleblowers that managers were instructing them to turn a blind eye to health tourists because it was "too much trouble" to chase them for money.
According to NHS estimates, only about 16 per cent of the cost of treating foreigners who travel to Britain to receive treatment is ever recouped
MaxK
- 21 Mar 2016 07:50
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VICTIM
- 21 Mar 2016 08:03
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As big as your head dear Freda .
MaxK
- 21 Mar 2016 08:08
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jimmy b
- 21 Mar 2016 08:09
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Fred will foot the bill Chris ,he would want all illegal immigrants treated whatever the cost .