Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I think he says things that suit the particular subject at the time , he says his wife is an immigrant .

Without "immigrants" working at various levels in the NHS and paying their taxes you wouldn't have an NHS.

no question about that at all, nor in a number of other industries of all kinds
however, that doesn't mean there should not be proper controls so that we can pick and choose ....... and yes, i know quite a lot come here with bugger all, work their socks off, and ultimately make a great contribution all round

This is her .

ann of cleves

CYNIC immigrants in the nhs you post shit for fact if we did not have over 5m scum low paid immigrants here bleeding the nhs and all the other services we would have a better nhs . and I do know the facts on Saturday will be with the person who is in charge of 3 big hospitals in the south top specialist on cancer my nephew
go in any hospital and look around for a few hours like I do lazy immigrants standing around good nurses to scared to speak out because of the race card
immigrants are not good workers after they have got their posts
more lazy scum using the race card to be lazy .
go down to your A/E and take a look at the amount who should not be their illegal scum . its time the race card was burnt

cynic can also tell you this he is not allowed to speak about the cost to the nhs or about the lazy staff

and while I am on the nhs the amount of sick in the nhs they are always on the sick most take weeks off sick to go back home to see family and other nurses can say nothing . its a national disgrace and its time the top nhs staff should be allowed to speak out but they are not allowed they would be sacked

so stop posting the nhs would collapse without immigrant staff its a load of bollocks
because doctors and other staff leave because of the lazy immigrants and can not say a word and going to work in other countries or leaving for other jobs same has teachers in the hundreds ever year

some of the top surgeons are indian for starters
best theatre nurses are reckoned to be south african or from elsewhere .... no longer british or even uk trained

who drives your buses?
what nationality are most most restaurant, bar and hotel staff? .... not british
who does all the menial jobs around the hospitals, hotels, airports etc etc?

Yes cynic but he does have a point . As a boy we didn't have so many foreign staff ,why now ? because we are overrun with migrants .
My Doctor left a few years back to go and work in Nova Scotia ,i knew him quite well he told me he had had enough of the NHS here ,it's a shame.

JB.

Perhaps, he had had enough of you!

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''Without "immigrants" working at various levels in the NHS and paying their taxes you wouldn't have an NHS''.

''Check the numbers of "immigrants" working in the NHS''.

''Your next surgical procedure may be carried out by an immigrant''.

Fred----------So that makes it alright for individual ILLEGAL immigrants to have vast sums spent on THEM at the expense of cancer sufferers does it.
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Good point GEORGE ,iv'e no doubt that's what Fred's banging on about .

Freda You are drawing conclusions by association , a dangerous method of working . re jimmy's post what . touche.

See what I mean Freda .

jimmy - are you talking about hospital staff? ..... if so, that may be because the medical profession in all its guises was seen as a really worthwhile profession ..... also, it used to be that uk nursing training was then the best in the world, but i think that is no longer so

it's also relevant that, regardless of immigrants, uk now has a much larger population, and a growing proportion of them getting well past their prime

Manuel.

A large amount of "overseas" and "immigrant" NHS staff have been adequately trained and in some areas better trained than the indigenous members of staff.

Many of "medical" doctors seem as part of "experience" and "specialisation" seem to wander around the globe (including Europe) to broaden their background before returning home or settling in their country of choice.

Good luck to them.

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Vicky,

JB, 215 and yourself are once again posting biased tripe.

Biased tripe? You have made a career of same, left wing bullshit.

There was 100,000 applications for training places from the indigenous population but only 30,000 available places last year....

Of course its easier to recruit foreign medical staff..No training cost and it keeps wages down, but takes skilled workers from their own countries.

Thats what you get constantly from the pro immigration brigade... they keep telling us that the British won't do this or that job, that we're not good enough, that's their take on the British worker..It makes you wonder how we managed before labour opened the door to mass immigration.

A lot of the 'British' that won't work are the from the socialist workers party and the open borders scum who prefer to either demonstrate for some socialist ideology or wandering round europe encouraging immigrants to storm borders!!...