Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

re - diluted

Just like your - deluded - comments "Freda"

Looks like " Diane Abbott" has been teaching you the wrong things

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next time give a link to you "deluded" no figures

The percentage of trade between the UK and the EU is around 44% and
falling..When you talk about trade with the other 27 countries, the majority
of trades is with Germany, France, Sweden, Spain, Italy, most of the others
like Lithuania, Slovakia, etc, etc, etc, does not import/export anything of
significance.

The total exports from the EU into the UK is approx 290 billion pounds, while
we export to the rest of europe approx 230 billion pounds.

And most of the imports into the UK are from German car manufacturers and France
cheese/ wine makers..

Yes, and the UK will easily be able to trade into low-income countries like China, India, Middle East.

With our sophistication and technology, we will be able to undercut them.

And goods travelling a few thousand miles further will help them to mature.


Mind the more sophisticated countries will be queuing up use our Technology and Financial services.

They can't possibly develop our skills.

You can already buy loads of goods, eg. from China, VAT Free, that have already been bought over here and stacked up in warehouses in the UK, so as to be ready for fast delivery.

The 'VAT Free' bit is most surely cheating HMRC, IMHO, but as the goods are sold over t'Internet, nobody seems to be able to do much about it. There were articles about this type of trading in today's press.

Here's just one example: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-uk-warehouse.html

Obviously, this isn't doing our economy any good and in the medium to long term has to be stopped - but how? It must be costing the British exchequer millions.

The moves are starting:

From Reuters/

By Anjuli Davies and Andrew MacAskill | LONDON
The largest global banks in London plan to move about 9,000 jobs to the continent in the next two years, public statements and information from sources shows, as the exodus of finance jobs starts to take shape.

Last week Standard Chartered and JPMorgan were the latest global banks to outline plans for their European operations after Brexit. They are among a growing number of lenders pushing ahead with plans to move operations from London.

Goldman Sachs chief executive Lloyd Blankfein said in an interview on Friday that London's growth as a financial centre could "stall" as a result of the upheaval caused by Brexit.

Thirteen major banks including Goldman Sachs, UBS, and Citigroup have given an indication of how they would bulk up their operations in Europe to secure market access to the European Union's single market when Britain leaves the bloc.

Talks with financial authorities in Europe have been underway for several months, but banks are increasingly firming up plans to move staff and operations.

"It's full speed ahead. We are in full motion with our contingency planning," said the head of investment banking at one global bank in London. "There's no waiting."

Although the moves would represent about 2 percent of London's finance jobs, Britain's tax revenues could be hit if it loses rich taxpayers working in financial services.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies - a think tank focused on budget issues - said in a report on Thursday the rest of the population will have to pay more if top earners move.

The exact number of jobs to leave will depend on the deal the British government strikes with the EU. Some politicians say bankers have exaggerated the threat to the economy from Brexit."




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Good. Finally, we'll have to find something else to do.

Weren't finance jobs already moving to Hungary, Poland etc.?

Cheers,
KidA

I'd be very surprised if MI5 weren't watching you Freda , i might tip em off .

Vicky,

You remind me of a childish but amusing song.

The troll said, "I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol, I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol
I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol and I'll eat you for supper"


Try humming it to yourself.

You hum it , an i'll play it .

Vicky,

Is your mother calling you?

I think you fancy her , Freda .

I think she represents the Nasty Party down to the core.

She does make me shiver and think "ugg".

And who if anyone doesn't make you shiver and think ugg ( impossible for you to answer i know ). Oh sorry forgot about Corblimey .

Actually, Vicky somebody comes straight to mind.

i would have thought ugg was too sloaney for fred