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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

KidA - 08 May 2017 16:42 - 6945 of 12628

Good. Finally, we'll have to find something else to do.

Weren't finance jobs already moving to Hungary, Poland etc.?

Cheers,
KidA

VICTIM - 08 May 2017 16:42 - 6946 of 12628

I'd be very surprised if MI5 weren't watching you Freda , i might tip em off .

Fred1new - 08 May 2017 18:27 - 6947 of 12628

Vicky,

You remind me of a childish but amusing song.

The troll said, "I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol, I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol
I'm a troll, fol-dee-rol and I'll eat you for supper"


Try humming it to yourself.


VICTIM - 09 May 2017 07:14 - 6948 of 12628

You hum it , an i'll play it .

MaxK - 09 May 2017 10:18 - 6949 of 12628

MaxK - 09 May 2017 10:20 - 6950 of 12628

Fred1new - 09 May 2017 10:31 - 6951 of 12628

Fred1new - 09 May 2017 10:39 - 6952 of 12628

Fred1new - 09 May 2017 10:40 - 6953 of 12628

Vicky,

Is your mother calling you?

VICTIM - 09 May 2017 10:44 - 6954 of 12628

I think you fancy her , Freda .

Fred1new - 09 May 2017 11:31 - 6955 of 12628

I think she represents the Nasty Party down to the core.

She does make me shiver and think "ugg".

VICTIM - 09 May 2017 11:45 - 6956 of 12628

And who if anyone doesn't make you shiver and think ugg ( impossible for you to answer i know ). Oh sorry forgot about Corblimey .

Fred1new - 09 May 2017 12:28 - 6957 of 12628

Actually, Vicky somebody comes straight to mind.

cynic - 09 May 2017 14:07 - 6958 of 12628

i would have thought ugg was too sloaney for fred

jimmy b - 09 May 2017 14:07 - 6959 of 12628

Diane Abbott for home secretary ah Fred , she'd be excellent , did you hear her on LBC ?

VICTIM - 15 May 2017 14:57 - 6960 of 12628

I see Sturgeon wants a seat in the Brexit negotiations , she does't know when to shut it .

grevis2 - 15 May 2017 16:40 - 6961 of 12628

Tories tipped to oust SNP deputy leader Angus Robertson and take 11 seats in General Election
The Moray MP is one of three leading SNP figures facing a ­humiliating exit in June with the Conservatives also poised to take Labour's only seat in Scotland.

14 MAY 2017
Daily Record

Angus Robertson faces a humiliating exit from his Moray safe seat in the election

The Tories have described it as their new “Ed Balls moment”.

They are after the scalp of the SNP’s deputy leader Angus ­Robertson in what was regarded as the safe SNP seat of Moray until a few weeks ago.

But according to a respected pollster, Robertson is just one of three SNP big beasts facing a ­humiliating exit in the election.

Pete Wishart, the party’s Shadow Leader of the House, and John Nicolson are also likely casualties of the Tories’ Scots resurgence.

The predictions are made by the political statistics website Electoral Calculus, who estimate the ­outcome in each constituency.

The current prediction is the Tories will gain 10 seats from the SNP, including Moray, and take Labour’s last seat in Scotland.

Meanwhile, the Lib Dems would double their ­number of MPs north of the Border.

Based on the latest polling, SNP will win 46 Scottish seats next month, the Tories 11, the Lib Dems two and Labour none.

Electoral Calculus, run by ­Edinburgh-born mathematician Martin Baxter, have been ­predicting election results for 20 years.

He uses an average of recent polls on voting intentions compared to previous results to forecast the outcome of each seat.

Perthshire MP Pete Wishart could also be for the chop next month

Baxter said: “Although Moray was a fairly safe seat for Angus ­Robertson in 2015, his majority is being threatened on several fronts.

“The Conservatives are getting more popular in Scotland and ­taking votes from Labour.

"Ukip got around 1900 votes last time but are standing aside this time, and many of those voters may switch to the Conservatives. And, in terms of the EU ­referendum, Leave got about half of the vote in Moray.

“That’s higher than the Scottish average of 38 per cent, and polls suggest Leave voters are attracted to switch to the Conservatives.

“This seat is now very close, and I would say it is balanced on the edge of a sgian dubh. It could go either way now.”

SNP MP John Nicolson is under threat from Tories
He added: “The SNP still dominate Scottish politics, and they will still win most of the ­Scottish seats at ­Westminster. But it probably won’t be quite as good for them as before.

“That’s still pretty good news for the nationalists, but their ­opponents will try to exploit their loss of momentum.”

Robertson won Moray in 2015 with a comfortable majority of more than 9000 but pro-Brexit ­sentiment and the ­resurgence of the Tories could see him lose by around 1100 votes to Douglas Ross.

In this month’s council elections, the Tories won 36 per cent of the vote in Moray with the SNP on 32 per cent.

Baxter also predicts, based on current figures, SNP MP Wishart will lose in Perth and North Perthshire by around 500 votes.

It would be another blow for the SNP, as he is one of their ­longest serving MPs.

Wishart won with a 9641 majority in 2015 but in the council ­elections the Tories gained seven seats and overtook the SNP as the biggest party in Perth and Kinross.

Respected pollster Martin Baxter runs Electoral Calculus
Wishart last sparked controversy by calling pro-Union politicians “w**ks” on social media. Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson said winning the seat would mean ­“business and pleasure can mix”.

Former TV journalist Nicolson won East Dunbartonshire from former Lib Dem minister Jo ­Swinson two years ago with a majority of 2167. But the website predicts Swinson could regain the seat with a majority of around 700.

The Tories’ hopes of winning Alex Salmond’s seat are set to be dashed, however, with the ex-first minister predicted to win Gordon.

The SNP are projected to hold Glasgow East and Edinburgh West, despite the seats having being held by scandal-hit MPs Natalie McGarry and Michelle Thomson.

Scotland’s only Labour MP Ian Murray is also expected to lose Edinburgh South to the Tories.

The exact numbers are being published on Baxter’s site today.

Dil - 15 May 2017 16:54 - 6962 of 12628

Victim , she can have Junker's .

ExecLine - 20 May 2017 13:20 - 6963 of 12628

Here's an article from the Daily Express, complete with a video clip of our Nigel telling them (ie. the bullying bar stewards of the EU) "wot's wot!", this last Wednesday:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/805741/Brexit-EU-not-crush-British-democracy-Nigel-Farage

ExecLine - 20 May 2017 18:14 - 6964 of 12628

Just in:

The British economy needs a net inward migration flow of 200,000 people a year, double the Conservative target, if it is to avoid the “catastrophic economic consequences” linked to Brexit, a study by an employer-backed thinktank has said.

The Global Future report says the UK’s low productivity, ageing population and shortage of labour in key areas, such as the NHS, show that net migration of 200,000 will be needed annually.

The report, backed by three employer groups, criticises Labour and the Conservatives for refusing to be honest with the British public about the level of migration the UK requires. It warns that if the UK refuses to be flexible about its sources of labour, it could face a decade of slow growth similar to that of the Japanese economy.
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