Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cameroon is destroying the tory party, just as Corby is doing the same to the labour party, and Cleggy has already done for the liberals.




Tory civil war over Europe deepens amid claims Cameron is ignoring Eurosceptic ministers

Vote Leave, the Eurosceptic campaign group led by Michael Gove, claims that the NHS has 'plummeted into financial crisis' under Jeremy Hunt




By Peter Dominiczak, and Steven Swinford

10:00PM BST 27 Mar 2016



The Conservative civil war over Europe has deepened amid clashes over the government's handling of the NHS and claims that David Cameron is ignoring Eurosceptic ministers.


Vote Leave, the Brexit campaign group led by Michael Gove, said the NHS had "plummeted into financial crisis" under Jeremy Hunt and accused the Health Secretary of "scaremongering" over the risk of leaving the EU.


It came as a senior Government source told the Daily Telegraph that David Cameron now refuses to acknowledge his ministers who backBrexit.



The source said that Mr Cameron refuses to make eye contact with Eurosceptic ministers and ignores them when they pass in corridors. Downing Street denied the accusation.


In a further sign of the growing divisions within the Tory party, a "Downing Street insider" was quoted comparing eurosceptics to Isil over their apparent refusal to negotiate.

Earlier this year the Prime Minister lifted "collective responsibility" rules for members of the Government, meaning that they are able to campaign on both sides of the EU argument.

Mr Cameron warned ministers on opposite sides to treat each other with "respect and courtesy", but the campaign has been marked by a series of unseemly spats which have divided the party.

A source said: "It has got pretty bad. David doesn't even make eye contact when he passes the eurosceptics in the corridor. It's like school when you annoy the popular crowd. But I suppose that's all he knows so it is to be expected.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12205412/Tory-civil-war-over-Europe-deepens-amid-claims-Cameron-is-ignoring-Eurosceptic-ministers.html

Cameron is a complete failure a liar a scare monger he will not reply to is lies
has a life long right wing tory will not vote for the party again nor any of my family
or friends we are sick of the pig liar
all the right wing conservatives should resign from the party and join forces with ukip

CAMERON HAS TURNED THE PARTY INTO THE CON PARTY LIARS

A 'Downing St insider' was quoted comparing eurosceptics to isil over their apparent refusal to negotiate.

So has that been government policy...To try and negotiate with an entity that wishes to destroy the western free world and return it to the dark ages??...

Donald Trump..."A lot of the free world has become WEAK"


Did you get that 'call me dave'...That includes YOU!

Leave Dave alone, he's doing a fine job as I have always said.

Looking at the latest massacre in Pakistan : it might be time for a global organisation to be put in place to try to stop/prevent such atrocities .......

Best leave it to Dave RF.

'Call me Dave' is well known around the world as the snake oil salesman and a piece of vomit..

Pakistan authorities have conducted raids and they say they've found numerous caches of weapons and explosives...

If they knew about these arms storage's..Why wern't they raided earlier??...

But not to worry call me dave has sent a message to Pakistan saying he will help in anyway he can, once he's got the important things out the way, like his holiday in the cannary islands, and opened the border gates a bit wider to allow more islamist to saunter into the UK, he'l then spend billions of pounds of tax payers money to sate his conscience....

Post 69477,


"up and at "em" boys!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/georgeosborne/12205602/More-than-six-million-workers-to-be-stripped-of-take-home-pay-under-stealth-tax-raid.html

This your government calling:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/The-Tory-War-Turns-Nasty/2016/03/28/article3350329.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/The-Tory-War-Turns-Nasty/2016/03/28/article3350329.ece


The Tory War Turns Nasty

The Conservative Party's civil war over Europe deepened yesterday (Sunday) amid accusations over the Government's handling of the NHS and claims that David Cameron is ignoring Eurosceptic ministers.

Vote Leave, the Brexit campaign group led by Michael Gove, said the NHS had "plummeted into financial crisis" under Jeremy Hunt and accused the Health Secretary of "scaremongering" over the risk of leaving the EU.

A senior Government source told The Daily Telegraph that Mr Cameron now refuses to acknowledge ministers who back Brexit.

The source said that the Prime Minister will not even make eye contact with Eurosceptic ministers and ignores them when they pass in corridors.

Downing Street denied the accusation but an "insider" was quoted as comparing Eurosceptics to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) over their apparent refusal to negotiate.

Earlier this year Mr Cameron lifted "collective responsibility" rules for members of the Government, meaning that they are able to campaign on both sides of the EU argument.

Mr Cameron warned ministers on opposite sides to treat each other with "respect and courtesy", but the campaign has been marked by a series of unseemly spats which have divided the party.

A source said: "It has got pretty bad. David doesn't even make eye contact when he passes the eurosceptics in the corridor. It's like school when you annoy the popular crowd.

"But I suppose that's all he knows so it is to be expected.

"I don't think he realises the damage he's doing to the party though. Whatever happens in the referendum, he is creating a deep split that isn't going to go away.

"His behaviour is totally irresponsible and a lot of people won't forgive him."

Mr Cameron, the source says, is "furious" with those ministers who he hoped to be able to convince to back the Remain campaign.

In one of the most outspoken attacks of the referendum campaign, Vote Leave yesterday accused Jeremy Hunt of "scaremongering" over the risk of leaving the EU and claimed that the health service has "plummeted into financial crisis" under his leadership.

It made the statement after Mr Hunt said that the NHS will face budget cuts, falling standards and an exodus of overseas doctors if Britain votes to leave the European Union.

The Department of Health was left in the unusual position of having to defend the Government's record on health from an attack by a Cabinet minister-led campaign group.

MPs campaigning for Britain to leave the European Union were also infuriated after a "Downing Street insider" suggested that negotiating with Eurosceptics was like trying to negotiate with the Isil terrorist group.

"You ask them, 'OK, what do you want?' and their response is, 'We want you dead'," the source told the Mail on Sunday newspaper.

The NHS row is one which is likely to resurface later in the EU campaign as Eurosceptics believe pressure on public services due to immigration from Europe is an area that resonates with the public.

The Health Secretary, said in an article for the Observer that a vote to leave the European Union "would inevitably mean less money for public services like the NHS".

Matthew Elliott, the chief executive of Vote Leave, responded: "Does this Government's scaremongering know no bounds? Under Jeremy Hunt's stewardship the NHS has plummeted into a financial crisis." A No?10 source denied Mr Cameron had been avoiding Eurosceptic ministers: "This story is completely false. The Prime Minister chaired political Cabinet, Cabinet and COBRA meetings last week, all involving Remain and Leave Ministers.

"He has gone out of his way to ensure ministers campaigning to leave have been able to carry on in their portfolios. Anonymous sources claiming otherwise should get their facts straight before making false claims."

The latest series of rows came as Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, faced attacks over his support for Brexit. The former Tory MP Matthew Parris called Mr Johnson "dishonest and reckless" in a column.

In another newspaper article, Petronella Wyatt, the woman with whom Mr Johnson had an affair 12 years ago, broke her silence on their relationship. She claimed in the Mail on Sunday that Mr Johnson wants to be Prime Minister because he is a "loner" who has a "need to be liked".

Vote Leave was forced to apologise after two of the country's best-known entrepreneurs denied signing a letter it organised from business leaders backing a Brexit.

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A bit like an Eton dormitory for overgrown school boys!

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THIS SHOWER WILL NEVER BE A GOVERNMENT CALLING!!!!

John Woodcock calls on MPs to rally against Jeremy Corbyn as he warns Labour 'cannot go on like this'
It comes after Mr Corbyn was accused by Mr Woodcock of turning his party into a 'f******* laughing stock'

By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent8:41AM GMT 25 Mar 2016
A Labour MP has called on his colleagues to rally against Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, warning that the Party "cannot go on like this”.
John Woodcock, the Barrow and Furness MP, has attacked the Labour leader and accused him of allowing the Government “to wreak havoc on the country without properly being held to account”.
Writing in the Daily Mirror today, the Labour MP called on his party to take an alternative path or risk seeing families “being bled dry” by the Conservatives.


It comes after Mr Corbyn was accused by Mr Woodcock of turning his party into a 'f******* laughing stock' after an internal list emerged branding MPs "hostile", neutral or supportive of the leader.


The publication of the list, which details almost every member of the parliamentary Labour party divided into five categories, has led to calls for an urgent investigation after MPs accused the leadership of "bullying" and "black-listing" members.

In a boisterous exchange at Prime Minister's Questions on Mr Cameron joked: "There are five categories ... we've got core support - I think you can include me in that lot."
Mr Corbyn angrily told the Prime Minister to "leave the theatre and return to reality" following the exchange, which prompted a furious reaction from Mr Woodcok, who tweeted: "F****** disaster.
"Worst week for Cameron since he came in and that stupid f******* list makes us look like a laughing stock".

In his piece today, Mr Woodcock wrote: “Jeremy is a nice man who is doing his best. But it is time to remember our loyalty actually lies to the people who desperately need a Labour government.
“For the sake of people being bled dry by a Government that thinks it has a divine right to rule, we simply cannot go on like this.”

It comes as MPs claim a Labour shadow cabinet member listed as being "hostile" to Jeremy Corbyn on a leaked party memo is being targeted "because she is Jewish".
Luciana Berger, the shadow minister for mental health, is one of just two members of Mr Corbyn's top team listed as being unsupportive of the leader.
A senior Labour MP told the Telegraph: "I think she is on there because she is Jewish, it is a concern for a number of MPs who have been looking closely at where Jewish Labour MPs are on that list."

It may be an unpleasant reality for some, but Cameron is still a popular leader at home and abroad. Personally, I am very happy with him.

Jeremy Corbyn has fumbled this Tory crisis, but his enemies are nowhere to be seen
The woes of the Conservative Party should have been the moderates' chance to remove their leader. Yet somehow they are making him stronger


By John McTernan12:16PM GMT 25 Mar 2016 CommentsComment
When a wolf has its jaws clamped on your fist its grip will periodically relax as it breathes. The natural human instinct is to try to pull your hand out. The tearing against the wolf's teeth increases your bleeding, giving the beast the taste for you and emboldens it. What you should be doing is forcing you first deeper and deeper down its throat, choking it and eventually killing it. Patience, persistence and a plan beat panic – every time.
"Labour properly led should be steaming ahead in the polls. But it isn't."
So it is with Corbyn's grip on the Labour Party. As the jaws tighten, Labour moderates just want to pull back and regroup. Right-time-ism is rife – "it's not the right time... we need to wait till the right time... strike at the right time." Of course, there is only one right time – when you can win. Though there are plenty of wrong times too, but they can be summed up in one phrase – on Corbyn's terms.
A conflict is coming. Whenever it comes it will be brutal and bloody – there is no peaceful way to commit regicide. But every revolution creates its own legitimacy – a successful takeover legitimises whatever and however it was done. Corbyn's team know that – they may have no support in the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP), as the risible list they drew up of colleagues shows – but the thing is, it doesn't matter how much you laugh at a hit list if the bullet still strikes you between the eyes.


The 'list' show that Corbyn and his team are no joke – they want control. Just as Unite delivered the new MPs who provide a large part of Corbyn's PLP support, so they will deliver the deselections when the time comes.
Worse than that, the pitiful performances of Corbyn and McDonnell over the last week or so show just how much they endanger Labour's future. This has not merely been Cameron's worst week ever – it has been a defining moment. Cameron secured the first Tory majority in over a century by being more popular than his own party and by persuading voters that his leadership was sufficient to neutralise the toxic Tory brand. Cameron himself was proof that the Tories could be trusted on the NHS, would run the economy fairly, were no longer the nasty party. It was some achievement – but it was always a fragile one. Two budgets and two abandoned attacks on the disadvantaged and all the careful detoxification is set at naught. Cameron is damaged – but he is going anyway. Osborne is damaged – and he was the anointed successor. For the Tories and their modernising project this moment feels like Black Wednesday when we fell out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM). That robbed the Tories of economic credibility. Nearly permanently. It took a global recession to get them back in the game.

To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, never waste a crisis. Labour properly led should be steaming ahead in the polls. But it isn't. When the Tories are in trouble you can rely on Corbyn to rescue them – he really is their greatest ally. Whether it is not mentioning IDS' resignation, the continuing embarrassment of his performance at Prime Minister's Questions, or his hit list, Corbyn can always turn a conversation about Tory failures into one about his own inadequacies.
"Wrong!" shout his supporters; "Labour has a one point lead in one poll. Jeremy is more popular than the PM in another." This, of course, is the Corbynista speciality – showing how Jeremy can look barely adequate when measured against a very low bar. The same was done when Jim McMahon won Oldham, and will be done when Sadiq Khan is elected Mayor of London. The line is essentially that Corbyn should be supported because Labour voters are still voting Labour.
The problem is that not enough people voted Labour at the last election. Labour needs to win Tory and UKIP voters. Those should be available given the catastrophic and defining failure of Osborne's Budget. It is the fact that they are not moving which should terrify Labour backbenchers. Corbyn's failure in the face of Tory collapse should be the spur for the PLP removing him.