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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

Optimist - 06 Jul 2008 12:53 - 6952 of 11003

TP

If you have such a large storeage requirement, I suggest that you split that you split the storeage from the workstation.

Get a decent spec NAS unit with RAID 5. The entry level units will have four disks, with the data spead accross three of them and the fourth acting as a hot spare. If one disk fails, the unit will carry on working at reduced speed while it rebuilds the lost data on the spare. If you use a 1GB network you will probabley have faster disk access than from your local disk.

For the workstation, as many Intel Quad core processors and as much memory as you can afford. Install a 64bit OS which should be able to use at least 8GB RAM.

Use a couple of very small hard drives in a mirrored RAID, which is not nearly as good as RAID 5 but the smaller drives will enable a quicker recovery of the OS in the event of a problem.

With any fault tolerant disk system, check how long the rebuild time will take as this can vary significantly.

ThePublisher - 06 Jul 2008 14:00 - 6953 of 11003

Opt,

To a degree I already have split the data from the workstation in that I only hold my current image files internally and the old stuff is on external hard drive(s).

So I only need a bit more than 100 gig to work on on an every day basis. The rest I only call on once every few weeks.

We had RAID at my old company. For me it seems the problem would be that if I left that big storeage in my studio I'd have no back-up in another location.

I feel that having, say, 250 gig in the workstation and external hard drives that I can back up is safer.

However, the idea of having a way of recovering the OS does appeal. In particular I am of the opinion that every OS gets slower as MS keep forcing us to install Service Packs. It would be lovely to push a clean OS on to the machine without the need to lose all the other third party software and data. Is that not an integral way of keeping the speed?

Is that what you are suggesting with your two small hard drives and mirrored RAID?

Rebuild time is not critical to me. An overnight rebuild would be no hardship if it put back the speed.

TP

Optimist - 06 Jul 2008 18:42 - 6954 of 11003

TP

You are correct that a RAID drive is not a replacement for a good backup strategy. But a RAID 5 setup will at least give you (almost) seamless recovery in the event of a single disc failure.

If you're serious about having an almost failsafe backup then you should have at least two sets of three external hard disks and keep them in separate locations. As you are backing up a lot of data try to get disks with a firewire connection. Also, invest in some flight cases for when you drop them.

A pair of mirrored disks on the workstation will allow you to recover from a single disc failure but will not help you reinstall a clean system. I've also heard of some cheaper systems where an overnight rebuild could be somewhat optimistic.

If you want to be able to reinstall a clean system, use a disk imaging package to create a copy of your entire disk when the OS is fairly new. But of course you will then have to apply all the latest patches that slow it down again. Some of the better external hard drives also claim to have backup software that can make a good job of a system restore.

ThePublisher - 06 Jul 2008 19:18 - 6955 of 11003

Opt,

"Some of the better external hard drives also claim to have backup software that can make a good job of a system restore."

This Maxtor seems to have an add-on bit of software that helps this.

I'd planned to have this as my overflow hard drive. The one that I do not need fast access to - simply to have it available. And when it gets full I'll add another one.

"But of course you will then have to apply all the latest patches that slow it down again. "

Which I guess is now a fact of progress. We get some nice new offering from MS that gets slower each patch - and thus sucks us into the next release.

"A pair of mirrored disks on the workstation will allow you to recover from a single disc failure but will not help you reinstall a clean system."

As long as I am not relying on that internal disk as my sole source of my software and images I'm coming to the conclusion that it ought to last long enough for a generation of MS operating system - if not I reload from the Maxtor and do all the upgrades.

"As you are backing up a lot of data try to get disks with a firewire connection."

I use Replicator so most of the time I am only copying updates to my library.

Thanks again for the ideas. I'm learning a lot.

TP


Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 09:46 - 6956 of 11003

TP

If your using several external disks then this is worth checking out. Sandberg USB All-In-1 HD link. It will enable you to use standard hard disks rather than buying the external cases.

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 10:38 - 6957 of 11003

Opt,

That's an interesting bit of kit. Is the idea that you just buy hard disks and (metaphorically) keep them in the nude?

I suppose people put them in something like jiffy bags. Yes?

I don't care a jot what my back-ups look like as nobody sees them other than myself. (I'd still opt for something like the Maxtor I mentioned above as a permanent external store as that will be on display when clients come to my studio.)

I have a horror about opening up PC's after destroying one hard disk whilst installing a new power unit. Don't ask me how I did it, but I managed.

I suppose that with this Sandberg jobby you/I could clone your boot up disk and provide a bootable substitute that I could run off until I paid someone to put it into the PC case.

Thanks for the ideas.

TP

Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 11:04 - 6958 of 11003

TP

That's an interesting bit of kit. Is the idea that you just buy hard disks and (metaphorically) keep them in the nude?

Yes.

I suppose people put them in something like jiffy bags. Yes?

Yes although your best bet is to keep them in the antistatic bags that they come in and put those in some purpose built padded flight cases. Hard disks are delicate and sooner or later you will drop one.

I suppose that with this Sandberg jobby you/I could clone your boot up disk and provide a bootable substitute that I could run off until I paid someone to put it into the PC case.

Yes with reduced performance so long as your machine will boot from a USB drive.

Thanks for the idea

You are Welcome.

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 11:10 - 6959 of 11003

Opt

"Yes with reduced performance so long as your machine will boot from a USB drive."

Am I right in thinking that is something I'd set up in the BIOS so that it first looked for an internal hard disk and then for one attached to the USB?

TP

Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 11:46 - 6960 of 11003

TP

Am I right in thinking that is something I'd set up in the BIOS so that it first looked for an internal hard disk and then for one attached to the USB?

You should be able to select the boot devices in the BIOS. Just set the first one to USB Drive.

hewittalan6 - 07 Jul 2008 11:48 - 6961 of 11003

D'you know, the more I read this thread, the more I wonder whatever was wrong with the mark 1 pencil & paper...............................

ExecLine - 07 Jul 2008 12:00 - 6962 of 11003

Configure your own Desktop PC or Laptop

"With custom desktop computers you can choose from thousands of permutations ranging from the case right through to the processor itself!"

This link above is well worth a look. It starts off with:

eg, Which route should I follow - AMD or INTEL? Click here for help

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 13:26 - 6963 of 11003

hew,

My wife is an artist and I can assure you that there are just as many combinations of pencil and paper.

Thanks for that Exec. I am still favouring Mesh as I can get to their showroom - and get back if anything does not work when I get it home.

Just been using my studio PC and noted that it has Intel Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.20 Ghz and 1.00 GB ram. Am I going to see much improvement in speed with what we have been chatting about?

TP

ExecLine - 07 Jul 2008 13:48 - 6964 of 11003

First off, I'd say, 'Not enough RAM'.

Re: Visiting Mesh, etc. I live in Northampton area. Nevertheless, it would take me 15 to 20 minutes to take my machine to the Computer Doctors down the road.

Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 13:55 - 6965 of 11003

TP

To some extent, it depends on your software.

Assuming that you go for a machine with one or more Intel Quad core procesors then you should have at least four times the potential processing power. However, you have to have software that can take adantage of multi processors. If your graphics software can only work with one core at a time then you will not see much difference.

The 1GB RAM on your existing machine is on the minimum these days especially for graphics applications. You would see a big performance increase by increasing it to at least 2GB, possibly 3 or 4.

Unfortunately the standard 32bit versions of Windows (and other OS) don't benefit much from going above 2GB RAM. For that you need to use a 64bit OS, the downside of that is that some programs and devices will just not work with it.

ExecLine - 07 Jul 2008 14:56 - 6966 of 11003

Dirty monitor?

Get it cleaned HERE

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 15:56 - 6967 of 11003

Opt,

The heaviest work my studio machine does is converting RAW image files into jpgs with this software.

Seems it will handle a Quad core processor so that can be on my shopping list.

TP

Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 16:26 - 6968 of 11003

TP

That looks like it can use the quad core OK but it looks as though it will be a while before it will run on a 64 bit OS so you will have to keep to a standard 32 bit OS.

BTW have you any experience of video editing software? I want to know the best (cheapish) package to convert my cameras .mov files to .wmv and DVD format

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 17:05 - 6969 of 11003

Opt,

"BTW have you any experience of video editing software?"

No, sorry. But I'll put a msg on the forum I use and we ought to have an answer by tomorrow morning.

TP

Optimist - 07 Jul 2008 17:08 - 6970 of 11003

TP

Thanks.

ThePublisher - 07 Jul 2008 17:38 - 6971 of 11003

Opt,

Gosh. Quad core really ups the price - at Mesh anyway.

TP
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