Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It doesn't matter what Cameron's father was doing. It might matter if it was Cameron himself. Who wants to pay more tax than necessary. I would change things so that there was only one rate of tax. Higher earners pay more tax by virtue of earning more. They shouldn't have to pay a higher rate as well. In fact I would make anything over £100,000 tax free. Good luck to anyone who avoids tax, especially to those who pay no tax at all.

A free for all eh Haystack?

Sounds good, how long do you reckon you would last?


btw, Cameroon has made a big thing of saying he and his family have no offshore dealings. Good for him, but what about his mum?

Consider who produces the "wealth" and where the "wealth" is produced.

Why would anyone care what Cameron's mother does with her money? Philip Green who owns Top Shop pays no tax as the company is owned by his wife and is resident in Monaco. There is no tax to pay there. It saved him about £1b in tax in a recent year.

On that basis, you could say why would anyone care what Amazon does with it's money?

Think of it as the Mafia family!

yet again for the sanctimonious and jealousy-driven among us ......

it has always been perfectly legal to set up family trusts off-shore, though the rules get changed every 5/10 years

if the rules are obeyed - eg declaration to the powers that be - then i have no problem at all

however, and as already voiced, panama has always been a questionable depository
on the other hand, places like channel islands, isle of man and even bermuda are tax havens but properly regulated

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i am not jealous of those who inherit wealth, and indeed i shall take reasonable precautions to minimise my own iht liabilities

why should the taxman steal any more than the fair minimum from my children?

Oh do stop inventing things Alf, off shore tax avoiding/evading is nothing to do with jealousy, among other things it's about being a scrounger.

The fact that their tax rate is lower in the 1st place and secondly shifting some/all of there gains out of the Country is what most reasonable people think is wrong.

If you earn the money within this Country then it's only right that you contribute to the running of it by paying your taxes in it.

Stan,

Agreed!

Someone would be happy to be the godfather!

MaxK
I don't care what Amazon does with its money,

Don't care just about sums you up.

Amazon are doing nothing illegal. I am happy that they are doing legal things. If the law changes then I will be happy if they obey the new laws. Avoiding tax is just common sense and good business practice. There is no morality involved no matter how much the lefties bleat about it.

Well said Stan re#69644

The other way is what the Vikings done to blighty, before blighty learned how to do it properly.

This, and any other complex country requires money to fund it's endevours, coming in and nicking the business without paying a fair whack leads to the country going downhill, it bleeds it dry.

However, Haystack thinks that's fine and dandy.

You are on the wrong side of logic!

I didn't say it was fine. I said I was happy that they obey the law. The answer is not to moan about Amazon but to change the law. Amazon has a duty to its shareholders to maximize profits and that involves paying the least tax within the law. Amazon's first duty is to its shareholders and not to the UK.

hays its the bastards that avoid paying their taxes that set the rules .
Cameron and any other mp who is found to be avoiding and fiddling their taxes
should be named and shamed and banned from working in any gov post

The NHS will be at risk of further privatisation if Britain stays in the EU because of the major trade deal being negotiated with the US, David Owen will say on Wednesday.


Lord Owen, who was health secretary for Labour in the mid-1970s before co-founding the SDP, said it would be impossible to take the NHS back to its original purpose unless the UK votes to leave in the June referendum.

Speaking to the Guardian, Owen said the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) between the EU and the US could put the NHS in “serious danger” unless there are more special protections to exclude the health service from the terms of the deal.

David Cameron was forced to issue a statement detailing his family's personal tax arrangements amid growing international scandal surrounding the Panama papers leak. Mr Cameron took the unusual step of insisting that neither he, his wife or children receive any benefit from an offshore company set up in Panama by his late father Ian, which paid no tax in Britain for 30 years.


The Telegraph has established that Ian Cameron’s firm Blairmore Holdings Inc was moved to Ireland in 2010 - the year David Cameron became Prime Minister. A source close to Blairmore Holdings - which is still operating with assets of £35 million – said the company had been moved because its directors believed it was about to “come under more scrutiny”.
just a bloody crook the family are a bloody disgrace Cameron new and took the free tax free cash

paid no uk tax for 30 years make is family pay it all back plus interest of 5%

then the tax man makes late tax payers pay a fine for being a day late
they need now to turn all their attention to these crooks and liars

So H/S just to make your position clearer, do you involve yourself or your family in off shore tax avoiding and or evading?