Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I suspect it's all tied up in trusts, you have the use of the money without actually owning it.

AFAIK, Cameroon has a country pile which he has the use of, without actually owning it.


It's a rich mans game.

It's woken Freda up hasn't it .

There is a world of difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Tax avoidance, or reduction, is perfectly legitimate. Most pension schemes operate that way. Isas are a form of tax avoidance. For the government or any one else to throw up their hands in horror is sheer hypocrisy. If the government doesn't like certain schemes, it can change the tax rules. Simples. The fact is that a lot of the rules are in place to attract companies to invest in this country.
Tax planning is an important part of any company's decision to buy or invest. Why do you think companies prefer London to Paris, for example? Cant be because of the climate.
I use Amazon often. Nothing better than needing something and having it delivered the next day. Or a book and downloading it immediately. How many traders depend upon Amazon, as well as the Amazon staff and horde of white van drivers? It's up to the government, if it doesn't like the tax arrangements. Amazon is a great company that is based on growth, not profit, at this time. And last time I heard, you pay tax on profits and dividends, not turnover.

Change legitimate to legal?

No matter which side of the fence you sit on, either opinion can be argued against..

The fact its not evasion but avoidance and is perfectly within the law, it wasn't just invented its been going on for years...The time when people should be upset is when politicians and those with influence say one thing and do the exact opposite and benefit from it.

Some people see what these taxes are going on, and which they disagree with...Like paying into socialist organisations like the EU, which takes in vast amounts of countries taxes and spend it on vanity projects, and spending vast sums to rectify their mistakes...Paying benefits from what appears a bottomless pit(or money tree) to immigrants who hav'nt contributed to the system...

Of course companies should'nt be able to escape paying taxes from their operations in the countries they operate, but when you've got weak government who accept meagre amounts and claim it a victory should suffer the public humiliation..

Half a million immigrants that poured in to Germany are unaccounted for ,not claiming benefits and not in the system ,where are they ?

Cameron is now unfit to be the pm he must resign has a thief is family should be banned from gov positions the camerons are no more than criminals

I think this is all organised jimmy , those mobiles these people have are organising them into places , there are that many around EU they can't cope with them. I don't think we've seen the worst yet and are they trying to get in UK now knowing the vote is due .

VIC it's going to be mayhem trust me.

The EU is the worst thing that has ever happened to Europe I believe , and I think we will find this out as time goes by . It's full of do gooder baffoons .

the EU is going to be the new Syria war their are now more terrorists in the eu than in Syria Pakistan turkey .

we must close our borders and arm the police or army to patrol them
and we must round up all illegals and deport them and any known hate preachers

I buy all my books from Amazon plus many other things. It is not the fault of Amazon what the tax rules are. They just want to minimize their tax. It is not even the fault of our government. It would do no good for us to change our laws if other countries didn't do the same.

report being hidden to uk public on the crimes now happening in the eu its out of control gangs of migrants attacking people muggings rapes stealing .

Sweden is in a terrible state of crime education has been destroyed its all out their to read . swedes starting to take the law into their own hands to protect their homes from gangs of migrants

hays you are a blatant liar and very dishonest you are deaf and blind a simpleton

'The EU is the worst thing that has ever happened to Europe' .. "Its full of do gooder baffoons"

NO it's full of ex communist, now classed as socialist, who have a project which has nothing to do with being 'do gooders' but ALL to do with dictatorship and telling us all whats best for us, while in the mean time taxing us to the hilt......

my party the cons have lost our votes the con party of liars and greed and not interested in the country just their own ends

TANKER I was going to ignore your postings, but you do talk utter bollox most of the time..

It would be good if one of your post contained a full stop or comer in/at the right time, and it would be in your favour if some of it made sense and wasn't just a diatribe of rabid dross...

So H/S just to make your position clearer, do you involve yourself or your family in off shore tax avoiding and or evading?

And I don't need a lecture on what's legal or not, thats irrelevant for the purposes of this subject.