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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2016 13:59 - 69692 of 81564

I doubt that most people have a strong opinion about it either way. Public opinion is a very bad way to measure anything. The majority are wrong about most things. If it is legal then it is fine and I am happy with it.

Fred1new - 06 Apr 2016 14:19 - 69693 of 81564

Haze,

All you need is a corruptible elite in power such as we have now.

Status quo is OK. as long as you think yourself top of the pile and can pull the drawbridge up.



Stan - 06 Apr 2016 14:50 - 69694 of 81564

"I doubt that most people have a strong opinion about it either way."

You clearly don't get out much in the real world H/S.

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"Public opinion is a very bad way to measure anything. The majority are wrong about most things."

Again only in your world and others that also conduct themselves as off shore tax scrounges.

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I did ask you not to bring the Law into this subject because it's irrelevant for it.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2016 15:03 - 69695 of 81564

The law is the only thing that is important. Why not give the government more of your income? Why don't you pay them twice the amount of tax that they want? Why not encourage everyone to pay more tax than they have to? Why not go the whole socialist hog as in Cuba where a doctor gets paid the same as a bus driver because everyone gets paid the same?

It is only the richer people who are asked to pay more than is required by law. The rest pay according to the law.

Stan - 06 Apr 2016 15:10 - 69696 of 81564

A typical me me me up the ladder I'm all right Jack post by the "Con" Party voter H/S.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2016 15:21 - 69697 of 81564

Lefties are certainly amusing.

Fred1new - 06 Apr 2016 15:45 - 69698 of 81564

It is only the richer people who are asked to pay more than is required by law. The rest pay according to the law.


Who is making the requests?


cynic - 06 Apr 2016 15:55 - 69699 of 81564

by definition, the wealthier you are, the greater your potential tax liability
the more complicated tax legislation is made, the more loopholes will appear that can be exploited either simply (= fairly) or aggressively (= asking for investigation by hmrc)


as has been pointed out on more than one occasion, (a) hmrc has no interest in morals and (b) if you want fewer loopholes, then lobby for their closure, but don't complain if these loopholes are fairly exploited


few if any people complain about tax allowances for pension contributions and similar, or paying zero tax on 25% of drawdown from their pension pot, or even tax-free benefits of one kind or another ..... so now we're talking about degree not principle

Fred1new - 06 Apr 2016 16:28 - 69700 of 81564

The clique in the cabinet reminds me of the Godfather and cohorts with parts of the UK becoming a banana republic.

Stan - 06 Apr 2016 16:30 - 69701 of 81564

More nonsense from Alf.

cynic - 06 Apr 2016 16:32 - 69702 of 81564

and why is it nonsense?

Haystack - 06 Apr 2016 16:33 - 69703 of 81564

Because it doesn't fit his ideology and agenda.

Stan - 06 Apr 2016 16:40 - 69704 of 81564

Self explanatory.

cynic - 06 Apr 2016 17:17 - 69705 of 81564

in other words stan, you can't think of any flaw or untruth in what i wrote, but you just happen not to like it

jimmy b - 06 Apr 2016 17:33 - 69706 of 81564

Stan asking the same question many times and demanding an answer ,that's a bit hypocritical isn't it Stan ?

Stan - 06 Apr 2016 17:58 - 69707 of 81564

And once again juvenile behaviour displayed by the usual suspects.

cynic - 06 Apr 2016 18:03 - 69708 of 81564

you're being even more pathetic than usual stan, so i'll switch off for the evening

will10 - 06 Apr 2016 18:15 - 69709 of 81564

Cynic.
You are correct, the wealthier get access to plenty of tax benefits the average earner can't take advantage of. What pisses people off is the cheating bastards aren't happy with that and push the boundaries. Cameron is very careful when he protests he is not benefiting now or in future from his dads offshore trust. The fact is the little shit did benefit in the past.
Ps. I'm sure there are top Labourites with funds off shore as well.
We are all in it together may arse!!!

jimmy b - 06 Apr 2016 18:51 - 69710 of 81564

Stan you won't answer any question yet demand an answer from someone else.

So Stan ,IN or OUT the EU ?

Haystack - 06 Apr 2016 19:14 - 69711 of 81564

Labour takes large donations from hedge fund managers who use offshore tax havens. There are senior Labour people doing the same thing. The Guardian is owned by a company that avoids tax.
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