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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Stan - 10 Apr 2016 19:37 - 69950 of 81564

Irrelevant yet again H/S or should it be H/S the off shore tax scrounging supporter?

Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 20:22 - 69951 of 81564

Let us look at Mr Corbyn.
He has said that he would publish his income and tax details but has failed to do so so far.

Lets us look at his wife.
Luxury coffee sold from the home of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is produced by poverty-stricken Mexican farmers, some of whom have earned less than the country’s minimum wage.

Laura Alvarez, the politician’s third wife, runs a business selling organic beans, and boasts that those who make it are paid ‘a fair wage and enjoy good conditions of employment’.

It has been discovered that Café Mam is produced by farmers in Mexico’s poorest state, who earn just 93p for each 500g bag that Ms Alvarez sells for £10.One farmer took home the equivalent of just £260 in a year after paying his workers – a quarter of the regional minimum wage;

A woman gets up at 4am each day to begin her back-breaking work, and wept when she was told how much her coffee is sold for by wealthy Westerners, including Mr Corbyn’s wife;

Itinerant workers are being paid between 80 and 130 pesos – £3.15 to £5.10 – a day to pick coffee;

Workers are living in tiny shacks with their families. They also had to take turns to sleep in their factory to stop thieves stealing the machinery and wrecking their livelihood.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 20:27 - 69952 of 81564

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Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 20:28 - 69953 of 81564

Mother of six Idolina Sanchez Gonzalez, 53, fought back tears as she talked about her back-breaking work as a farm owner in the mountain village of La Victoria. She was paid £1,600 for her coffee last year, £800 of which went to her workers.

She said: ‘I get up at 4am and walk to the farm to start at 6am. I work until 4pm, sometimes later. We are only paid once, so it has to last all year and we have to work other jobs to pay our workers.’

Mam coffee – named after an ancient Mayan community – is grown high in the mountains at altitudes ranging from 3,900ft to 5,570ft above sea level. Once it is harvested the co-op leaders negotiate a deal with its client Royal Blue Organics, in Portland, Oregon.

The price agreed is based on the New York stock exchange, and is topped up to meet Fair Trade standards. Last year that was $176 per 60kg sack, equivalent to farmers earning just 93p for each 500g bag that Ms Alvarez sells for £10.

Farmer Daniel Morales Ortega, 56, said: ‘It’s not fair that this politician’s wife is buying our product and selling it for so much money. We are desperate people. It’s an abuse.’

One tearful farmer urged Mr Corbyn’s wife last night: ‘Please think about us farmers and how we are struggling when people are making so much money off our hard work.’

Stan - 10 Apr 2016 21:09 - 69954 of 81564

Cameron and his dodgy, corrupt and partizan Government in the cart day after day and all H/S can try and do is desperately deflect attention.. you are so consistently pathetic.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2016 21:16 - 69955 of 81564

Haze,

Cameron and crew allowing the shipment immigrants back to Turkey to die.

No comparison Haze.

What has happened to the kids without adult protection in Calais.

The actions of this Tory governments stinks.

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Why don't you send the farmer and family a few bob out of the tax avoidance you boasted about?






Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 21:26 - 69956 of 81564

Cameron is doing an excellent job as is his government. We are fortunate to have him as PM. The public chose wisely once again in rejecting the Looney left.

Stan - 10 Apr 2016 21:29 - 69957 of 81564

H/S in dreamland as usual with nothing left to say.

jimmy b - 10 Apr 2016 21:30 - 69958 of 81564

cynic Send an email to cynic View cynic's profile - 10 Apr 2016 16:30 - 69934 of 69956

69925 - that is an unfair smear
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cynic ,not me, take it up with the Black male who is Trevor Phillips ,an intelligent man as well.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2016 21:37 - 69959 of 81564

Who revelled in it?

will10 - 10 Apr 2016 21:59 - 69960 of 81564

just waiting to see Tony Blair, Boris Johnston and George Osborne tax returns. I bet they not too fucking happy that Davy Boy has let the cat out of the bag.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 22:10 - 69961 of 81564

Boris published his quite a while ago when running for Mayor. Osborne's tax details are very simple. He just owns a share of the family business and nothing else. Blair would be a very different thing and I doubt he will reveal anything.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2016 22:12 - 69962 of 81564

My guess is that Labour's shadow cabinet maybe a bit unhappy. Several major Labour MPs have made extensive use of tax avoidance.

will10 - 10 Apr 2016 22:21 - 69963 of 81564

Hays

With you there,
Some Labour lads sure to be caught out. Boris too, he was at his phis /posh/piffel best trying to avoid the question today.
I'm sure the lord of the valleys mr Kinnock income will be an eye opener.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2016 22:49 - 69964 of 81564

Haze.

Name and shame.

Have you checked you own accounts?

grannyboy - 10 Apr 2016 22:59 - 69965 of 81564

Fred1 69956 "What has happened to the kids without protection in Calais"

Don't you just despise the bleeding heart liberal lefties????......

If they were so destitute and unprotected, WHY havn't they applied for asylum in France, a perfectly safe country, especially for immigrants, WHY do they find it necessary to get to England before seeking refuge????...

Also how do these 'children' get ALL the way to Northern europe by themselves???..
And those who advocate letting them come to the UK, under recent ECHR's say if these children make it to the UK then under the echr's they can bring their immediate family to join them!!!!....

MaxK - 10 Apr 2016 23:30 - 69966 of 81564


Cameron could give top cabinet jobs to Brexit leaders in 'Operation Save Dave'


Boris Johnson and Michael Gove considered for home secretary or deputy PM roles in ‘unity reshuffle’ after referendum to placate Eurosceptic Tories



Anushka Asthana

Sunday 10 April 2016 12.36 BST



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/10/david-cameron-eu-referendum-boris-johnson-michael-gove

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2016 23:34 - 69967 of 81564

Because the parents or family of some of the "kids" are already in the UK.

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I wrote about 12-18mths ago, may be longer that what may help in the situation we have with immigration should have been dealt with by building Transit camps as after WW2. and the Countries of the EU accepting after vetting a proportion of the immigrants.

My own father-in-law spent time in a "transit" camp after WW2 before be accepted in the UK.

He provided a professional skill later for this country.

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The actions and treatment of "immigrants" by the present government and willed on by the "little Englanders" has been appalling.

grannyboy - 11 Apr 2016 07:45 - 69968 of 81564

99.9% of these immigrants are economic migrants and unskilled, we've enough unskilled workers as it is..Yes and there we go again with the little Englander acusations, and thats why the country is in the state it is....

And its usually the recent immigrants that do most of the shouting and accusing, belittling the indigenous population....

grannyboy - 11 Apr 2016 07:47 - 69969 of 81564

AND fred1 YOU still don't say how these children manage to get to Northern europe???..
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