maestro
- 10 Feb 2007 10:07
London Evening Standard: An explosion of disbelief - fresh doubts over 9/11
London Evening Standard
An explosion of disbelief - fresh doubts over 9/11 - thisislondon.co.uk
09.02.07
A new film alleges the U.S. staged the 9/11 disaster to justify the Iraq war
The official story of what happened on 9/11 never fails to shock. Four American airliners are hijacked by Osama Bin Laden's terrorists in an attack on the heart of the Western world on September 11, 2001.
Two are deliberately flown into New York's famous Twin Towers, which collapse. A third rams into the United States defence headquarters at the Pentagon, in Washington D.C.
The last goes down in rural Pennsylvania, 150 miles north of the capital, after a tussle between the hijackers and some of the passengers onboard, whose bravery was recently portrayed in a Hollywood film, United 93.
Nearly 3,000 ordinary, decent Americans die in the attacks, provoking the U.S. President George W. Bush to mount a global war on terror, which leads to the invasion of Iraq, with Britain in tow.
Or that's how the official story goes.
Yet today, more than five years on, this accepted version of what happened on 9/11 is being challenged by a 90-minute internet movie made for 1,500 on a cheap laptop by three young American men. The film is so popular that up to 100 million viewers have watched what is being dubbed the first internet blockbuster.
The movie was shown on television to 50 million people in 12 countries on the fifth anniversary of 9/11 last autumn. More than 100,000 DVDs have been sold and another 50,000 have been given away. In Britain, 491,000 people have clicked on to Google Video to watch it on their computers.
Called Loose Change, the film is a blitz of statistics, photographs pinched from the web, eyewitness accounts and expert testimony, all set to hip-hop music. And it is dramatically changing the way people think about 9/11.
seawallwalker
- 11 Feb 2007 17:30
- 7 of 35
z?
No it was ascertained that they had Arab connections.
al-Qaeda
hlyeo98
- 11 Feb 2007 22:21
- 8 of 35
What a whole load of rubbish...just a means of making money by making this nonsense movie.
maestro
- 11 Feb 2007 22:26
- 9 of 35
al queada is a fictional regime dreamt up by some idiot in MI5...the terrorists that did 911 and 7/7 were in the vicinity of both attacks...onethat springs to mind is the new york mafia man Rudi GULIANI
seawallwalker
- 12 Feb 2007 07:28
- 10 of 35
maestro - yes I'm sure..............
hlyeo98 - no harm in looking at an "alternative" perspective even if you think it's bonkers.
As to money making?
I watched it for free using maestro's link, as most seem to.
maestro
- 13 Feb 2007 20:47
- 11 of 35
seawall...i'm serious mate
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 07:27
- 12 of 35
Read this
and this
maestro - in this land of free speech and thought, you can be serious if you want to, and why not?
Navajo
- 14 Feb 2007 13:42
- 13 of 35
Four unanswered questions that virtually make all the demolition conspiracy theories impossible 'til such time as if/when they are.
When were the alleged demolition charges placed?
Who placed them?
How many people placed them?
How long did it take?
An upset and enraged onlooker, remonstrating with the sickening, placard wielding truth movement fruitcakes at ground zero, was pacified with these words from a policeman, one of New Yorks finest.
Dont let the retards spoil your day
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 13:57
- 14 of 35
Navajo - I'm not taking sides, but I would ask where is the air plane wreckage from the Pentagon crash?
Planting of explosives in such a manner is not as difficult as you may have assumed however I have assumed that the collapse of the Towers was because of the excessive weight of the aircraft embedded in the structures, although in the back of my mind, I have a feeling the towers were constructed in such a way as to withstand any such collision.
It's always nice to see an alternative view, whatever I believe to be the truth.
Navajo
- 14 Feb 2007 14:17
- 15 of 35
seawallwalker.
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Inside the building. The fact the aircraft was travelling so fast accounted for the lack of wreckage outside. The largest parts left intact were undercarriage and engine parts, of which numerous photographs exist. Most of the passengers and crew were also identified via dna samples also found inside. Of course it goes without saying that you won't find any mention of that in maestro's loony (in it for the money) websites :o)
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 14:21
- 16 of 35
"The largest parts left intact were undercarriage and engine parts, of which numerous photographs exist."
Please show me where to find them.
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 14:25
- 17 of 35
Navajo
- 14 Feb 2007 14:30
- 18 of 35
seawallwalker.
Re explosive demolition. One good example of how long it takes can be found on British companies that perform them. : If you insist I'll post the demolition co's URL.
A shopping mall in Manchester. I think it was four TEN story buildings. It took 6 months with dozens of men working. A dozen or so explosive experts and hundreds of charges placed in UNOCCUPIED buildings. Now maestro et al would have us believe that (in the mocking words of George Galloway) 'George Bush in his boiler suit blew up WTC7' eg.
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 14:56
- 19 of 35
Navajo - I don't need the link thanks.
I was unlucky enough to watch it live as it happened on TV on the day apart from the first crash, although I later saw the footage.
As far as maestro goes?
He loves to cause an effect, which is why he publishes these extreme articles on a regular basis.
Sorry to say I have reacted again, I was intrigued by the video, and I have now done plenty of digging as I had nothing else to do, it's the UFO conspiracy all over again.
Haystack
- 14 Feb 2007 15:23
- 20 of 35
A number of people have said that the US never went to the Moon and it was faked. One of the astronauts said that this rumour was put around by unbalanced attention seekers. I think the same comment applies here.
Navajo
- 14 Feb 2007 15:25
- 21 of 35
Just an asside. maestro informed people on various sites some time ago that he was selling Loose Change dvd's on ebay. 'Say no more' ;o)
seawallwalker
- 14 Feb 2007 15:53
- 22 of 35
Okay thanks
maestro
- 14 Feb 2007 17:24
- 23 of 35
navajo baby...yeah for a 1..hardly going to get rich am i...even forked out for a bloody duplicator 250 that rejected 50% of dvds
Navajo
- 14 Feb 2007 19:07
- 24 of 35
That makes you an even bigger fool than your average conspiracy theory 'nut' :o)
maestro
- 15 Feb 2007 07:36
- 25 of 35
yeah well..sold about 1000 so got the ball rolling...i was the first to sell it on Ebay,now hundreds are doing the same..even sold 300 on qxl...now i'm sitting back waiting for the shit to hit the fan