IT IS THE DISCOVERY THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF PLANES that has the USG and their agents climbing the wall, ":tinhatting", "conspiracy theorists" every thing that moves, for it is the end of the game. It's the "Bingo" the Holy Grail, it's the end of GWB and Dick and mob, and extreme reactions, attacks, can be expected. "Hurting the movement"---"it's a trap"--there is NOTHING we can do to hurt the movement except to hide the truth.

THERE IS NOTHING MORE EMPOWERING THAN FINDING OUT THE TRUTH AND UNCOVERING A SCAM!!! Nothing. Even the most timid, frightened person gets stronger. . If there is anything the world's people need, it is to be empowered..........and that is our job--to tell the truth and expose the scam.


Of all the attempts to silence research--the Pentagon, the war Games, the stand-down, the pod, IMHO, nothing has brought the disinfos scurrying to the surface, lungeing, insulting, like the discovery that there was no hard evidence of plane wreckage where there should have been an abundance--several tons of it to be exact.

Many of us researchers got side tracked by trying to figure out the hijackers, the pod, the war games, that we ignored the obvious. The estimated speeds of '175' was one of the first things figured out by M.I.T. and other agencies of good reputaton. The calculations came in from 500 up to 625 mph--at sea level. The speed of the Pentagon flt 77 was judged to be 500 mph.

And even *then* we didn't catch on--so finally one retired commercial airline pilot* , followed by others, who had actually flown two of the planes, could stand it no longer and finally explained on a radio show, there was no way they could reach those speeds at sea level -- "you just can't get them to go that fast--they won't do it!" that 350 mph was more like it. Being outside the "Do Not Exceed" envelope the vibrations would be so bad that the planes would have broken up.

I just put that piece of information in the box labeled "strange facts" to be hopefully figured out some time in the future. (I later was to discover while real airliners can't achieve those speeds, computer-generated planes have no trouble at all going any speed they want.....)

About this time when I was looking at some original TV coverage of that morning, I discovered there was some sort of time-lag -- about 5-7 seconds--in the so-called coverage labeled "live". Then there was the clock on the screen that disappeared by the time of the 2nd hit--about 9:03am. So I asked around, "What's the deal--anybody else know about this?, and was met with silence. And all I could do was wonder why there was a tape delay on so-called live coverage. Was there something to hide? Why did they need to preview before airing? I knew there was something there, that it wasn't an accident. That, too went into the "Strange Facts" box to figure out later.

I'd seen the strange CNN shot of the plane melting into the bldg, many, many, times, but I couldn't make a mental 'connect'. We made the connect that the same "screams" was used in more than two scenes....

It wasn't until I saw this shot that made me sit up and take notice. Keep your eyes to the RIGHT of the green spire. DOUBLE CLICK THE INSET TO ENARGE. What do you see as the 'plane' has passed behind the spire?

http://thewebfairy.com/911/2hit/newjetcrash.htm

See the pieces, the flying debris? Some smoke or powdered concrete come out from behind the spire?


The green roof eats up the plane before it can go behind---there is no debris, no hole no plane no movement in that space to the right of the green spire. It is a totally dead space. The 'plane' is all the way in the bldg., without anything happening. THERE IS NO SIGN OF ANY IMPACT! Even with the spire there, there should be plenty of sign of the 'impact'. It is a fatal flaw. There is no sign of any impact because there was NO IMPACT.

This is deadly evidence of a computer graphic, not a real plane, and deadly evidence and proof of 9/11 being a hoax and an inside job hoax. All in this one screen capture.

Just as all evidence points to 9/11 being an inside job, instead of hijackers, so too does all avail photo evidence point to the use of computer-generated images of 'planes', and not real airliners.


(there is a second proof and maybe a third that this particular was faked--and remember this is shown that morning on
CNN--we see their logo, etc....but after this clip with it's pathetic mistakes, with it's drooping engine was shown repeatedly on the Internet, a brand new one appeared--another forgery--quietly substituted, but with moving the towers in impossible ways..........Now compare the replacement...... http://hereisnewyork.org//jpegs/photos/2087.jpg and no longer contained the mistakes...a second generation forgery.

Which forces one to ask, why did they use forgeries if the 'planes' were real? If that CNN screen shot clip shown in the morning of 9/11 was legimimate, why was it necessary perpaps a year later to quietly replace it?).





http://thewebfairy.com/911/2hit/newjetcrash.htm

Second thing to look at on the same clip.

Notice the position of two roof spires---about equidistant from the corners of the towers.

Notice the condition of the 'plane'--it is lousy--problems all over the place. An engine is drooping about to fall off--the tail looks like it was put on backwards.



WHAT DO ALL 4 'PLANES' HAVE IN COMMON?


FLT 77-- NO DEBRIS ON GROUND

FLT.. 175---- NO DEBRIS ON 'IMPACT' (Not a wheel, not a wing-tip, not a fin.)

FLT 93 (PA) ----NO DEBRIS ON GROUND

FLT 11 -----NO DEBRIS--ON 'IMPACT'

They forgot to put in the inevitable debris! [the local firemen beat the "debris truck" at the Pentagon and took the pictures to prove it..]

I could go on and on, the evidence is huge and it is consistently supporting this observation. The lack of passengers, lack of mourners, it's lack of Todd Beamer-- who was as real as Harry Potter--endless. All the loose ends come together--the tape delay was to insert the 'planes'.--to eliminate those military helicopters---to mute the sound of the explosions of the demolitions. The 'planes' didn't break up because they weren't real. The pod was an Easter Egg. The silence of the airlines was intentional, possiblly to avoid incrimination? No real planes went up, because there was no radar images to trigger an alert. The Cheney/war room story was false and planted.. The puzzled flight controllers never saw anything, and their destroyed tapes told that.

The commerical pilots stranded in airports confered with each other that they didn't believe the story of hijackers--not even one plane let alone four, it was to easy to prevent just by tipping ones wings, and throwing any hijackers to the floor, and more ways to thwart a hijacking.


All the pieces keep falling into place..


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(The clip that appeared the next day's cover of Newsday) Only a fictional plane can start off without a pod, then a few frames later "grow" a large unmistakable pod that enlarges all by it's self before our very eyes, then uses it's fragile fiberglass nose* and its 1/4" aluminum as a "battering ram" to overcome concrete and steel, and slide into the bldg. without a single piece of that plane being broken off--not a wing tip, a tail, not even a single wheel is broken off ---THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE! See how nothing breaks off.? Must be a solid steel aircraft.....no, make that solid depleted uranium plane--that would have really good penetrating capabilites........

http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane/index.htm

http://www.gallerize.com/Videos/CNN_Best_Angle.swf

Such things can only happen in Hollywood--or maybe the basement of the Pentagon--or maybe in the control center in WTC7? . To see an example--see this 3-min demo. http://www.405themovie.com/download405.asp
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* " 757s dont go that fast. The airplane will just not do that, Russ Wittenberg, a retired pilot with United and Pan Am airlines, told AFP. "Its exceeding its air speed and mach speed limitations. The airplane just won't perform those maneuvers. The mach limit for a 757 is about 360 knots at 23,000 feet," Wittenberg said.
Performance limitations on 767, 757.
http://www.757.org.uk/767/limits/index.html

malaprop aka izzy


[I LIKE THIS excerpt.........].

http://911hoax.com/Why_911_Hoax_Matters.asp

"........what is significant about the 911 Hoax is how it was conducted. If the Bush government has such total control over the news media that the latter could be made to air fake planes striking the World Trade Center then no media figure can be believed. This means that the progressive, anti-war movement is extremely infiltrated.

"Last, the only means with which the Bush regime can be dislodged is if the general public suddenly realizes what a monstrous hoax was perpetuated against all humanity. The indoctrination achieved from the fake image of planes striking the WTC enabled Washington to start two wars as a "response". They've also destroyed the US Constitution on behalf of "protecting" Americans from the fear that they manufactured with phony video. The only way Americans can recover what was lost is if suddenly everyone wasn't so afraid.

Please tell people about the great 911 Hoax. You know in your heart that no planes really struck the World Trade Center. There is hardly any more time left. Another World War is coming and this issue is the only way to stop it."

Scott Loughrey

When the Towers collapsed everything was turned into tiny particles of dust by the kinetic energy released in the collapse.

Both planes were clearly seen to enter the Towers when they connected with them.

What you think should be your affair and not highlighted in this fashion here, this is not an X-File comic fan club.

Uncomfortable Questions: Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?

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maestro,

Isn't the most likely scenario regarding the "no planes" theory that this is deliberate disinformation "injected" into the "9/11 truth movement" in order to distract and discredit them?

The thing is there seems plenty of genuine eye-witnesses who saw plane(s) (of some description) fly into the twin towers. Maybe these were military planes or unmanned drones, but computer generated? less likely imo.

yes but this eye witness thought they saw a missile...plus other planes were seen higher in the sky on a different flight path...look at the evidence..too many on here are not even looking..they have already made their mind up

september clues part 6
http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/C69E733A247346FE94FCA7A0EC01945F/268916/september-clues-part6.aspx

Maestro - or samerot - you are a good example of the price we have to pay for living in a democracy

ITS GOD'S WAY OF TELLING US ME MADE A MISTAKE SENDING HIS ONLY SON TO HIS DEATH. HUMANS ARE TO THICK TO UNDERSTAND WHY. THERE FOR I MUST BE. BUSH DID IT SO HE COULD ATTACK IRAQ.

Go and ask the people who lost a loved one Or who were in the city at the time.
The why and the reasoning we will never know. Oil or just people who are in power to make bad mistakes.

wake up guys....get ya fuckin heads out of the sand for gawds sake!

if you haven't time to read the words then just watch this short 7 min film...you will hear a bystander at twin towers saying"i thought i saw a missile"
september clues part 6
http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/C69E733A247346FE94FCA7A0EC01945F/268916/september-clues-part6.aspx

Oh maestro, you are such a plonker.

;-))))

Maestro,

I personally know a guy that was sitting in his office watching the second plane hit!

I have a good friend who was part of British Leyland's management team during the later years.

He tells me that the reason the maestro was dropped was because it was generally recognised to be an unreliable pile of crap, incapable of functioning properly, and had zero credibility.

I wonder what happened to it.......

There is common reality, personal reality and madness.
I think I know where "strange" beliefs in this case are placed.

Gausie..is that why my maestro is still going strong.. over 300k on the clock

september clues part 6
http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/C69E733A247346FE94FCA7A0EC01945F/268916/september-clues-part6.aspx

IF ANYONE CAN MAKE A GOOD DVD OF SEPTEMBER CLUES..ALL PARTS PREFERABLY THEN LET ME KNOW...NEED TO GET IT ON EBAY