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WINTERS INVESTMENT     

javidshaik - 05 Sep 2003 17:39

Has anyone on here heard of Winters Investment or even been on their courses?
I have recently attended their free 3 hour seminar in Heathrow and was wondering if their 1450 2day course attendeable with partner is worth it?
They also have their course on video aswell. Anyone seen the videos?

Regards

Javid

Andy - 22 Sep 2004 16:26 - 7 of 7

Now the BBC have featured him!

Can this man make you rich?

By Orla Ryan
BBC News Online business reporter

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I have taught you enough to be dangerous

Darren Winters
Darren Winters knows how to sell.

He is standing in a room full of people who have already bought into a dream.

We all read the advertisement which offered us a free seminar on how to make millions on the stock market.

We handed in our signed disclaimers as we walked through the door, we bear the bruises of our previous stock market encounters and we want to learn how to do it right. We are the Saturday night crowd, waiting for the lottery balls to roll.

Darren takes a sip from the first of a dozen or so already poured glasses of water and begins.

Briefcase of learning

He holds up a silver briefcase, which represents the stock market.

To get the money inside, we need the combination code.

And Darren, who has read 200 investment books, attended stock market seminars in the UK, America and Russia over a period of five years, had one-on-one training with some of the best stock market traders - is the person to teach us the code.

"Maybe you know someone who lost money," he starts.

"Sitting on this chair,"shouts someone from the audience and everyone laughs.

He speeds through different buy-and-sell strategies, play-it-safe ones which offer returns of 20% and single trades which can offer us returns of 451%, all of which sound too good to be true.


In the throng: Everyone can make a fast buck
We are on a rollercoaster of adrenaline when Darren reveals the catch - he can teach us everything we need to know on a two-day course, which costs just over 3,000.

Life is a beach

Over the course of the next three hours, we learn a lot about Darren.

At one stage, he says he lost 40,000 on the stock market in eight weeks through his ignorance.

Then he tells us he was frying burgers in McDonald's when he saw an advertisement for a stock market course. He had doubts and then he realised he "did not have enough money not to do the course". He paid for it on his credit card and a part-time job in a bar while his flat mates laughed at his aspirations.

He laughs now. He can. He has spent years in Goa, St Lucia and Barbados. And where are his flatmates now? Accountants, marketing directors... he shakes his head.

What was the difference between him and them? He chose to pay to do the course.

Life on the beach was good, that is until he realised life without a goal was meaningless and his goal was to teach other people how to make money on the stock market.

Child's play

How easy is it to do?


A few years ago and you could have seen Darren on a beach in St Lucia
Easy, says Darren, showing a picture of his toddler son, Richard, at a laptop doing stock market research.

"What is a dividend yield? Who cares, lets keep this simple," he says half way through one strategy.

What is it that we need to learn?

How the economy influences shares. How to pick quality companies at the right time. When to buy and when to sell. Lots of charts. Pipe bottom, diamond bottom, gap island reversal - all things we can master.

A quality company. What would you want, he asks, a Mini or a Mercedes? We look confused. Darren prompts us - a Mercedes.

More than 40,000 people have attended his courses over the last four years and he has 700 testimonials and success stories.

"I have taught you enough to be dangerous, " he says at the end.

About one quarter of us have already left. Some of us are looking incredibly alert, possibly dangerous, maybe ready to invest.

To be really profitable, and not just dangerous, we should do the course.

Disappearing act

Within seconds, Darren disappears through a side exit into the kitchen, so quickly it is as if he never existed.

Is it really possible to learn to make millions on the stock market in just two days when even highly trained fund managers can come a cropper when markets turn?

Can it be that easy, I ask the man on my right.

Rob Huntley knows a lot of people in the City, has attended this course before and is back now because he has some money to invest.

"I don't think it is probably that simple... if it really is that simple, there would be more people making money," he said.

I ask the man on my left, who slept through half the seminar.

He says he came just to see Darren's selling techniques, as he heard he was a really good salesman.

A young woman tells me the course was inspiring, but she cannot afford to do it yet.

About ten to fifteen people have signed up for the two-day course at reduced prices available only today, the organiser tells me. She has already told me I can't take pictures, and no, I can't interview people who have already attended the course - I would only distort their stories.


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