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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

VICTIM - 12 Apr 2016 11:40 - 70056 of 81564

It's good innit and they're just the men .

Stan - 12 Apr 2016 12:22 - 70057 of 81564

Did someone mention Cameron?

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2016 13:31 - 70058 of 81564

Stan,

He needs all the help he can get.

Haystack - 12 Apr 2016 13:46 - 70059 of 81564

Haystack - 12 Apr 2016 13:48 - 70060 of 81564

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2016 13:52 - 70061 of 81564

I would have thought Haze would enjoy that experience!

Haystack - 12 Apr 2016 13:54 - 70062 of 81564

It turns out that John McDonnell receives £14,000 income from his pension that is managed and held offshore in Guernsey.

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2016 13:55 - 70063 of 81564




David Cameron is being auctioned off on eBay as a 'used Prime Minister' - and he's getting quite expensive

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2016 22:28 - 70064 of 81564

Well. Well. Well.

Where have market forces and capitalist principles gone?

Thomson Reuters EDITION:UK


Business | Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:13pm BST Related: DEALS
Britain could offer loans to tempt buyer for Tata steel plant
LONDON | BY WILLIAM JAMES

One of the blast furnaces of the Tata Steel plant is seen at sunset in Port Talbot, South Wales, in this May 31, 2013 file photo. REUTERS/Rebecca Naden -
One of the blast furnaces of the Tata Steel plant is seen at sunset in Port Talbot, South Wales, in this May 31, 2013 file photo.
REUTERS/REBECCA NADEN -
Britain said it could offer state loans to tempt a private bid for Tata's loss-making Port Talbot steelworks as Prime Minister David Cameron scrambles to save at least 10,000 jobs thrown into jeopardy by a global steel crisis.

Britain is battling to save a once mighty steel industry after Tata Steel announced it was putting its British steel operations up for sale, citing a surge in cheap Chinese imports, soaring costs and weak demand.

The Indian conglomerate reached a deal to sell one of its plants in northern England on Monday, but Cameron is under pressure from unions and the opposition Labour Party to ensure that Tata's other British steel assets are sold to save thousands of jobs.

Business Secretary Sajid Javid even opened up the possibility of the state taking a stake in Tata's flagship Port Talbot plant in south Wales.

"The key point is any investment would have to be on commercial terms," Javid told parliament on Tuesday.

"Investment can take a variety of forms - for example it could be debt," Javid said, adding that it would not be correct to give details of the plans at this stage.

A government source, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation, told Reuters that a government loan as part of a deal with other investors was the "likeliest scenario" for the purchase of the steelworks.

The source said that there was only a remote possibility that the state would end up taking an equity share in the Port Talbot operation.

Still, a Conservative government floating the possibility of taking equity in ailing steelworks once privatized by former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher underscores the seriousness with which Cameron is treating what the Labour Party called a national emergency.

FIND A BUYER?

Both Cameron and Javid have pitched themselves as heirs to Thatcher, who during her time in office in 1979-1990 privatized British Steel and sold off government stakes in loss-making national champions.

Javid, who keeps a portrait of Thatcher in his office, said on Monday that nationalization was "rarely the answer" but ruled nothing out, while Cameron's spokeswoman said: "Nationalization is not the right answer."

As many as 15,000 jobs were put at risk when Tata announced on March 30 that it was selling its British steel operations.

"This is a human tragedy," Javid said. "When we talk about job losses in the abstract it is easy to forget that each of them represents a person. A hardworking, highly skilled man or woman."

Under a deal struck on Monday, Tata agreed to sell a steelworks in Scunthorpe, northern England to investment firm Greybull Capital for 1 pound, saving around 4,400 jobs.

But more than 10,000 jobs remain at risk at other Tata plants across Britain and the complexities of taking on a loss-making steel enterprise amid soaring Chinese exports of the metal mean the government is under pressure to clinch a deal.

"EMERGENCY"

The crisis comes as Britain faces a referendum on June 23 on its membership of the European Union and a debate on steel in parliament on Tuesday descended at times into an assessment of the merits of EU membership.

The government was criticized by lawmakers for failing to halt Chinese imports and moving too slowly to stem the crisis.

"The situation now facing the steel industry cannot be categorized as anything other than an emergency," Angela Eagle, Labour's business spokeswoman.

She called on Javid to clarify his plans for the future of steelmaking, saying that the industry was "hanging by the thinnest of threads".

"Call it what you like - co-investing, part-nationalization, temporary public stewardship, or sheltering the assets - it's clear that circumstances may require the government to do this. They should spare their ideological blushes and just get on with it," Eagle said.

After Britain asked China to tackle the problem of oversupply, Beijing said it wanted to work with the rest of the world to find a resolution to overcapacity in the steel sector.

China makes half of the world's steel and produced 803.8 million tonnes in 2015. That was almost eight times the output of Japan, the No. 2 producer, and nearly 20 times that of Germany, Europe's biggest producer.

grannyboy - 12 Apr 2016 23:28 - 70065 of 81564

fred1, YOU would'nt know a principle if it slithered under your snakelike form and ferreted its ways up your rse....

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 08:09 - 70066 of 81564

"Steve Bell on George Osborne publishing his tax return summary"


grannyboy - 13 Apr 2016 08:25 - 70067 of 81564

fred1, Yes keep posting your filched cartoons...They help cover your incompetence and deceptions....

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 08:30 - 70068 of 81564

Good!

TANKER - 13 Apr 2016 09:32 - 70069 of 81564

the eu principle states that the eu is their to protect eu companies and jobs
so why are non eu countries allowed to under cut eu companies and sell all their spare
goods to under cut eu countries

this is why the uk steel is in trouble the eu is not working for the public only for non eu companies like china usa .

we must vote out to save the uk
poll now saying 50 50 and the outs are getting stronger

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 10:31 - 70070 of 81564

Perhaps the cartoons are demonstrating that others have different opinions to yourself.

I know that some may find that difficult to tolerate.

VICTIM - 13 Apr 2016 10:41 - 70071 of 81564

You said it CARTOONS .

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 10:56 - 70072 of 81564

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 10:59 - 70073 of 81564

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 12:22 - 70074 of 81564

At PMQs a few moments ago, Cameron said that he will remain as PM if the referendum vote is out.

grannyboy - 13 Apr 2016 12:40 - 70075 of 81564

fred1, opinions are fine so long as they're based on FACTS...
There are people like yourself fred1 that discount FACTS and
just post what YOUR liberal bleeding heart ideology tells your
conscience that will help you feel better.. And yes you're right...
I am intolerant to liars and deceivers, when its about something i
feel passionate about....And if that makes me 'in your' eyes a
little Englander then i'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it....
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