mactavish
- 10 Sep 2004 22:20
Company Profile
YooMedia plc is one of the fastest growing interactive entertainment companies in the UK.
Since 1997 we have been developing and launching leading B2C consumer brands in the gaming and community sectors. We also work in a B2B capacity with leading brand owners, agencies, content developers and broadcasters to design and develop their interactive content strategies.
Led by Executive Chairman Dr. Michael Sinclair and Group Managing Director Neil MacDonald, YooMedia has assembled a highly experienced management team that possesses a unique blend of skills and experience in the areas of Digital TV, Internet and mobile phone services and technology.
With main office locations in London, Exeter and Maidstone, YooMedia manages core assets including:
Over 30 office locations throughout the UK alone
State-of-the-art studio, production and post-production facilities at our Wapping location.
UK broadcast return path & bandwidth owner
Fully fledged UK Bookmaker License
Database with over 350K UK singles
SMS Engine access with international reach
Fully staffed 50 seat Customer Contact Centre in Maidstone, Kent
YooMedia Dating & Chat - Our dating subsidiary company manages the oldest and largest UK-owned dating brands including Dateline, Club Sirius and Avenues. YooMedia Dating has over 20 office locations throughout the UK and also manages YooChat, our world-leading interactive chat service found on UK digital cable on the Telewest platform (platform extensions planned for 2005).
YooMedia Gambling & Games - Combining the brands of Avago and Channel 425 (in partnership with William Hill) YooMedia is on the leading-edge of interactive fixed odds, casino and poker gambling services for digital TV, the web and 3G mobile phones. Our gaming business also manages YooPlay, the only interactive just for fun games channel found on all four Digital TV platforms in the United Kingdom.
YooMedia Enhanced Solutions (YES) - YES works with brand owners, agencies, content owners and broadcasters to clarify the options, define the strategies and deliver the interactive content that enhances consumer and audience experiences. YES customers include the BBC, Nestle, Celador, William Hill, Channel 4, ZipTV, The Cartoon Network and HR Owen.
chad
- 21 Feb 2005 17:12
- 701 of 3776
Why do people like the Gull put so much effort into downing this share? Havnt they got better things to do? If they dont like the share then fare-do's dont buy it, but why put all your time into slagging it off?
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 17:30
- 702 of 3776
chad
Because I am pissed of with the way we have been treated here.
And if they want to mark the price down but they do not tell us why then I must try & find a reason for this. Then lets see how far the bastards will drop it and there may be chance for some to pick some up on the cheap like the daytrading institutions who literally get money handed to them on a platter at our expense. Well bugger them if we have to loose money then so can they so lets drive this bastard down to a level where everyone looses money, directors institutions & the likes of us. To just shave 20% off the value of a company well need I say more.
You can call me what ever names you like but it will not change my feelings on this until we are at 30p+.
EWRobson
- 21 Feb 2005 19:34
- 704 of 3776
There only seems to be one logical reason why The Gull and poes should be so negative with arguments that don't stand up and that is that they are working together (or in unison if they are one and the same) to drive the price down. They would want to do that if they (he) were shorting the share or working as part of a consortium to short the share. From my standpoint, I don't have a problem with argument against a share on the basis that it is overpriced, but I have not seen any rational argument only statements which don't stand up to examination. When mactavish does a post (as he has now done twice) to summarise the merits of the company and arguments for YOO moving to a higher price there is no response - they still circle around dropping (you know what). I challenge them (him) to answer mac's points in post 698 or go away - preferably the latter!
EWR
jimwren
- 21 Feb 2005 19:38
- 705 of 3776
The Gull
The way you (and many others) have been treated may be unfair but it is history.
Also it is not the first time that small investors have been screwed by the markets. How many times do you see a placing, at heavily discounted prices, that you can't participate in ? Do you have this hang up on every share that you lose money on, or is this one special ? I don't mind negative comments on any stock as long as its backed up with a reasonable argument. So far from you, nothing but Gull-shit. Either argue your corner without personal rancour or bugger off.
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 20:12
- 706 of 3776
jimwren if you want to argue round 1 simply add or subtract from the equation.
+450m shares in issue
-166m (saying 100% of shares taken before relisting including Scottish!)
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+284m
- 45m (Lloyds, Superannuation & Perpetual)
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+239m
-120m (DITG portion locked in until 2006)
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+119m
- 30m (max bought buy ordinary share holders in the last 2 months)
- 30m (institutions of less than 3% guess and the only debatable number here)
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60m shares not placed
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EWRobson
- 21 Feb 2005 20:32
- 707 of 3776
TG: What's the point? Are you trying to argue that 60M shares have not been placed? Why? The 119m (actually 120m) is the number of shares that have been placed by Evolution. The 30M shares bought in the market, if correct, come from these and shares already issued in some proportion. Is the argument relating to the size of any potential overhang? The concern re this is presumably affecting the sp and is likely to do so until we have the Evolution report or announcement from the company.
I'm wondering from above posts whether you are driven by angst from the handling of the placement, rather than supporting your shorting activities as I suspected. If that is so, it is understandable although it would be advisable for you to move on, rather than allow the angst to consume you. I was one of many who also suffered but have moved on, made good profits elsewhere and now prepared to reinvest them to have a share in the emergence of YOO as a major entity in the DVD arena. Time doesn't stand still and nor can we.
EWR
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 20:54
- 708 of 3776
Yes EW to me EVO potentialy have 60m shares to get rid of as far as I was aware they took on a whole lot of shares in turn supplying funds for the deal?
Secondly I dont even now how to short it doesnt make sense to and am not interested in doing it.
Another reason I continue to hold is that there is just too much upside as pointed out by the unarguably extensively hard research done by the likes of trigger/ipublic, mactavish/psmith, etc how can posters of such callibre be wrong?
iPublic
- 21 Feb 2005 21:04
- 709 of 3776
EWRobson
Gull cannot understand that the 60m shares have been placed.
He cannot understand that the market will only be notified if any one buyer, purchases over 3% of the issued shares.
He expects to be able to count down every single share. He cannot understand this will not happen, due to the above point.
He cannot understand that EVO can sell 13m shares to an institution, not notify the market, because that figure is under 3%
He kept 10000 in his current account for 12 months and then expressed surprise when he recieved no interest.
He is under 25, with no credit card, not had a bank account for long, yet claims to own his own house, bought with cash.
The figures he quotes in post 705 are not his own. He had to ask me for help to produce those figures. He was incapable of performing this task himself.
He thinks the shares allocated to Sony, as final payment for Goplay in Janurary, were placement shares.
I've already explained the situation with the 60m figure several times and he can't seem to get it. He either has a low IQ and/or has learning difficulties.
andysmith
- 21 Feb 2005 21:11
- 710 of 3776
Personally I think the gull is just frustrated with YOO especially if holding alot of shares at a loss, I was in that boat and I wanted to press the bloody red button and blow the twats up who sold out their normal investors in favour of lining their own pockets and the institutions. NO NEED. This bloody share single-handedly ended my good run last Autumn and I was not very clucking happy!
If I had made an error, only me to blame but this was pure bad treatment.
The Gull, I had to get out because it pained me to look at the bloody things in my portfolio and I re-invested what was left and have recovered it twice over with SEO. NOW, I don't give a shit and may buy back into YOO in the future as it does have a very bright future and mactavish in particular keeps this bb well updated with news so that you can do some reasonable research (pity couldn't predict the suspension and placement though!!). If I can buy at around the price of the greedy b*****d directors say <17p, its a good base to have some confidence that you might not get screwed again as thats all that puts me off, they've done it once!
andysmith
- 21 Feb 2005 21:13
- 711 of 3776
YOO will deliver the goods for you folks, I believe that but how long are you all prepared to wait?? Good Luck.
EWRobson
- 21 Feb 2005 21:13
- 712 of 3776
iPublic Its be nice to visitors today, whatever their motive or their annoying habits! So, OK, he didn't realise who the bald pate belonged to that he dive bombed. He may be Jonathon Livingstone Seagull reincarnated and finding the going difficult. He may not know that to "in vest" doesn't mean "get under the skin of". Mind, I agree, be nice to a Gull and it will peck your hand off!
EWR
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 21:19
- 713 of 3776
Ipublic
Do you honestly believe that they placed 100m shares in a 2 month period that included xmas shutdowns?
Secondly as I had to explain before as you insist on the personal angle, I always had a savings account and the bank advised me to take the current account but being admittedly nieve I did not realise I would not get interest. Well one years interest on 10k is = say 450 WOW Ipublic what a bugger up hey.
iPublic
- 21 Feb 2005 21:24
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andysmith
The directors have only lined their own pockets, once they acutally take their options at 15p. These are NOT free shares, they still have to pay for them, more working capital for Yoo.
We had the chance to buy at 16.5p anyway, so it's no longer a big deal. The directors currently own 28%+ of the company and hopefully we are batting on the same side.
How long am I preapared to wait? This kind of comment makes me chuckle. I'm an investor and buy shares for 5 years, not a speculator.
iPublic
- 21 Feb 2005 21:26
- 715 of 3776
Gull
Yes, I do. I've a contact who knows one of the EVO brokers. This is not a story, it's fact.
So time to shut up. You really have not got a clue.
andysmith
- 21 Feb 2005 21:31
- 716 of 3776
Good argument but whichever way you look at it, they can buy at 15p and sell immediately at >20p sometime in the future, win personally and for the company.
Yes we could buy at 16.5p to average down and then hope for a good rise just to breakeven, there's only one way to look at that and it ain't good.
I almost had a blue portfolio last year before YOO was suspended and that set me back, now I'm significantly blue thanks to other investments and this is still dogging around 16-18p I am happy to get back into a company that should do well with its products and connections, but I will never trust them.
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 21:41
- 717 of 3776
iPublic
Its about time you told me your reason, talk about having to hammer it out of you.
iPublic
- 21 Feb 2005 22:27
- 718 of 3776
Gull
Reason for what?
EWRobson
- 21 Feb 2005 22:34
- 719 of 3776
andysmith
I'll talk to you and leave the others to slog it out. After all, we've got SEO in common and are feeling good with the world. Even forgive the YOO directors - its a well known fact that the person who benefits most from forgiveness is the person who does the forgiving. Hope the Gull reads that - I think he can read. Personally, the people I blame are Evolution - on the record that they shorted a company out of existance. Good article in The Times today on morality in finance. The point is well made that, in the long run, the moral approach is the best way and I remember an article in the Harvard Business Review that had evidence to prove it. I am hugely confident in SEO but still there is a maximum amount I feel I can invest - as they gain in value that means spreading out the largesse. So its back to YOO, warts, immorality and all. Very strong in a key developing market. A really good hand and Docherty is a charismatic leader. Will be increasing my stake. In fact, would have done today, but then my daughter in Phuket finds a super house at the weekend she wants to buy. Dad, can you send me some money to Switzerland by 5th March, just 20,000! Oh well, YOO and the rest can wait. It'll be good to stay there in November and she is doing great work helping the economy to revive over there. Proud of her. Nice chat, andy. Takes our minds off the fisticuffs!
Eric
The Gull
- 21 Feb 2005 22:44
- 720 of 3776
The reason you knew they have placed +/- 100m in 2 months.