Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Please don't., :-))

George

Hear you, I can only speak about life in southwest UK, but still believe on economics we need to stay. 50/50 on politics.

Most Airbus work here is via GKN. Airbus has a design office in Bristol and heavily into composites. If we leave EU new design work will be picked up by other European partners. Why would a heavily EU financed business let the UK continue with design work if an internal partner can take it on in the future?. The Universities are tied into a European wide network. If we not in then we will fade from the front line because most of the funding is EU and our government, of all shades, will not fund the high cost/long time frame of research.
No doubt we can make an economic future for ourselves, but certainly a lot of what we now have economic wise in Bristol/southwest is via being in EU. UK just a small pawn on our own.

George

post70244.

Agree. But for sure if left to UK government (of all sorts) money would not have gone to regions.

Agree with you on NHS too. Lots of waste. My wife a Physo in a cancer clinic has a high % of failures to turn up. Sometimes because ambulance driver working to rule, sometimes patient couldn't be arsed.

But huge gains in quick treatments. Cardic heart stents easy job. heart valve replacement routine now only 4-5 days recovery in hospital.

Big advances in cancer treatment on the way. Genetics/tech/online treatments all need more and more cash.

will10 sorry but you are absolutely wrong on the below.

The NHS is more effective than at any time in treating all sorts of illnesses, some untreatable even 5 years ago.

Wasting your time jimmy this mans a know it all you know .

will----------British Aerospace had a factory not too far from us but sold out around 2010 I think.
Non attendees at doctors surgery and hospitals should pay a small fine after one no show.
Re NHS waste, our main hospital regularly send patients home after a stay without their medication, this is sent via taxis (sometimes) only an hour or so after the patient has left.
They also request ambulances to transport patients home that aren't ready to go, and because of timing restrictions the ambulances leave, meaning the NHS pays twice for that transport.
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And will thinks the NHS is running great ,it is not it is in serious trouble.
So many people from abroad are now using it .

will talks absolute rubbish...Airbus won't be going anywhere, its just more scaremongering by an obvious europhile remainer..

jimmy

Sorry if you have had bad experience with NHS.
Waiting lists may be longer and efficiencies abound.
Funding is lacking.

But many advances in past 5 years. I can give you a list of the few I 'm aware of if you want.

Will,

P70235

Fully agree with you.

Also agree with you over the NHS.

The standards in general are higher than they ever were.

The "problem" is the expected and more sophisticated possible treatments and ageing population.

If it was for the "foreigners" working in the NHS, often for low wages, the system would crumble.

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However, in an attempt to lower the demands on A&E I wonder if "first aid" or equivalent for simple injuries etc. could be taught in schools.

Due to parents, grandparents and offspring no longer living in close communities some of the support systems have been reduced.

It's true there have been fantastic advances in recent years but the costs of providing the medicines to the patient in many cases (various cancers) is prohibitive.

We've got a fantastic pill to extend your life Mr Smith but unfortunately it costs too much to let you have it.
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jimmy

If you could forget your dogged negative view of the NHS for a minute you would have read that I pointed out that the NHS lacked funding and there were inefficiencies.( including not charging non residents ). A big inefficiency is failures to show up.
However they do many more effective treatments than 5 years ago.
Properly funded, efficiencies removed, the NHS will continue to work well.

George

You said it, I agree. Heard of similar here. Reduce the NHS waste.

grannyboy

Google Airbus. It is a European grouping. Why would it be expected to continue funding work in the UK?
A big block of research funding in our local universities is from EU. UK has poor record of funding long term. Where do we get funds.?
The southwest benefits from EU we will stay in. I respect your views, vote how you wish.

Victim

Go educate yourself ignorance is not bliss

I don't need education from you mate the man who wants , 60 70 80 100,000 . Syrians taken in this country . And just show some respect as regards your language too .

i also think Will is getting an unfair beasting from some of you

fred
you wrote ...... in an attempt to lower the demands on A&E I wonder if "first aid" or equivalent for simple injuries etc. could be taught in schools.
offices and similar can't even give an aspirin from the first aid box
i'm not even sure about an elastoplast
why?
in case there's an allergic reaction, and then you'll have hse and a lawsuit round your neck

Teach First Aid in schools? Your having a laugh! They can't even teach them to read or write or add up.

Remind us Will what is your occupation again? Some might say self interest sways your vote but I couldn't possibly comment :0)

chris - it was Fred's suggestion not Will's ....... put your specs on :-)

cynic what chris is saying is that willio is in the housing business , you know people need houses don't they .

Put your specs on cyners, note the fresh paragraph.

victim

I'm sorry for the language didn't mean to disrespect you. It just pops out when I'm responding to that fucker Tanker. I wouldn't try to educate you 'mate', your on your own there.

To jump back into "our UK humane response to refugees", as you will remember I said as a country we could cope with our share of the refugees.... up to 300,000. As you know we already take in more migrants than that now.
Remember we are talking about REFUGEES here...... don't start ranting on about economic migrants.

In any event eventually, due to global warming, there will be a much, much greater mass migration northwards. Prepare for it, you will not be able to stop it.

Whoever created this world probably didn't intend that, we who have most, have a right to refuse to share with those that have little. Just give a little.

Not if the implementation procedures are correctly taught.

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Treatments of minor conditions are carried out by many already.


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But perhaps.

We can restrict the NHS treatments to those who have the ability to pay!

Bugger the rest!