Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hooray!

I remember all those appeals for Biafra(?), and the funding need for clean water and food...

They raised literally millions of pounds, and yet the situation still exist..

Fred's still so drunk from last night he posts everything twice.

DOMINIC SANDBROOK: Dave's fatal flaw. At the heart of so many of the Tories' problems lies Cameron's and Osborne's utter inability to grasp the values and aspirations of the middle classes


By Dominic Sandbrook for the Daily Mail


Published: 02:08, 16 April 2016 | Updated: 03:15, 16 April 2016



As political historians are fond of saying, the Conservative Party is a coalition. Upper-class patricians and self-made entrepreneurs, ardent traditionalists and passionate reformers, Roundheads and Cavaliers — its major figures have often been very uneasy bedfellows.

Sometimes, as the increasingly poisonous Brexit debate suggests, the fault lines can seem dangerously unstable.

But if there is one thing that, in modern times, has always bound the Tories together, then it is their shared commitment to middle-class values.


I say ‘middle-class values’, but they are not confined to one social group.

All over the country, millions of people, whatever their background, believe in the importance of aspiration and ambition, of striving and saving, so that they can do the right thing by their children — not least after their deaths.

The most successful Conservative prime ministers, from Benjamin Disraeli and Stanley Baldwin to Harold Macmillan and Margaret Thatcher, have always understood this.

In 1975, one newspaper cartoonist drew Mrs Thatcher as a knight in shining armour: ‘St Joan Margaret de Finchley, Saviour of the Middle Classes’. And the Grantham grammar-school girl never failed to live up to her billing — which is why the British people rewarded her with a record three election victories.


Whether David Cameron really shares her commitment, however, is rather more dubious. Ever since he became Tory leader, 11 years ago, critics have wondered whether this patrician Old Etonian, the descendant of William IV, the son-in-law of a baronet, really understands the ambitions and anxieties of the ordinary British family.




More dave here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3542904/Dave-s-fatal-flaw-heart-Tories-problems-lies-Cameron-s-Osborne-s-utter-inability-grasp-values-aspirations-middle-classes-writes-Dominic-Sandbrook.html

Max.

The Tory elite manipulated the emotional values of the middle classes for their own benefits for donkey years.

But, now they have lost emotional contact with the middle-class straitjacket.

The middle classes distrust the present government, but at the moment are apathetic.

Mind the "wealthy" tory cabal are there, not to intellectual ability, but due to the pirating and thieving of wealth and land in previous periods and handed down from one generation to another as if "war fare" and "thuggery" is sufficient reason for owning or inheriting.

Often the inheritance escaping "taxation" by the rules their cohorts have introduced.

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I enjoyed writing that!

8-)

Bought any shares this week Fred? Take after your leader, hypocrite and plastic socialist.

Exec - That video made my day. Alas, memories eh? :0)

What a grubby cabinet.

Birds of a feather?

It wasn't like that when I was in Angola... now Rio, yes.

I know I am getting old but it rankles me how the english language gets hijacked to support an agenda. Instead of homosexuals, lesbians etc, they become "gay". Now I have met a few in my time and I would characterise few of them as being gay in the true sense of the word. Quite the opposite in most cases.
Now we have two fairly advanced aged homosexuals that make a point of being "married" in order, I suppose, to show how they really care for each other. In order to complete this idylic arrangement, they decide to adopt children, while most of us at their age realise that a dog is less of a problem.
After a while they decide to spice up their lives by having a threesome. Woe and behold, their little secret gets out since they are well known in that part of the world that considers them newsworthy. Perhaps their idylic world is not so good after all and should young children really be raised in that environment? Just asking.
They run to the courts to get an injunction to protect their "offspring" from their behaviour becoming general knowledge despite the internet and their "offspring" probably being more canny in its use than they are.
Now since when can two homosexuals have offspring together? Leave 100 on a desert island and in 75 years the island would be inhabited only by crabs.

as in pubic lice? :-)

why should one care in slightest if X and Y have a 3-some with Z?
it's hardly unusual any more than is whittingdale's predilection for being a sub

iturama, I'm not against what you post but you should be very careful what you divulge, because in the judges eye you could have divulge too much in your post, and could be subject to contempt of court.

I don't care two hoots about the identity of this particular odd (or should that be even?) couple Granny. Or of the thought police. My point is that the PCs are twisting the english language to suit their purpose. The latest is "offspring" when referring to the adopted children of same sex couples.

The real question is, why is a british court gagging what is common knowledge outside the uk?

Can you get this sort of service from the british courts on legal aid?

These gagging orders are a waste of time and undemocratic. Those that are interested can easily find out via the internet. So they only hide the facts temporarily from the people that couldn't care less.

Agree its a joke...Its well know all over the internet
and in Scotland and the US..

Just not in England and Wales, but by all accounts the
newspapers are back in court tomorrow and should have the
ruling binned.

Apparently a lot of these no win no fee solicitors will if they
think you've a good case fight it on that bases..

The surprising thing for me is that the judges involved allow this sort of nonsense to bring the law into disrepute, because that is exactly what it is doing.

judges do not write the law, they only interpret it
if the law is (deemed to be) an ass, then it needs to be changed .... applies to tax avoidance as well

Good grief you RWR's really are off the wall, can you please keep your rants about Europe to the correct thread.

HAha..Since when has talking about a couple of a particularly
sexual oriantation be confused with the corrupt going ons in Brussels??...

Never mind. Stan is at that stage of life where he is easily confused. His missus is getting quite concerned, I hear. Has a tendency these days to wake up in the middle of the night shouting "right wingers!" Or something that sounds like that..