Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I don't care two hoots about the identity of this particular odd (or should that be even?) couple Granny. Or of the thought police. My point is that the PCs are twisting the english language to suit their purpose. The latest is "offspring" when referring to the adopted children of same sex couples.

The real question is, why is a british court gagging what is common knowledge outside the uk?

Can you get this sort of service from the british courts on legal aid?

These gagging orders are a waste of time and undemocratic. Those that are interested can easily find out via the internet. So they only hide the facts temporarily from the people that couldn't care less.

Agree its a joke...Its well know all over the internet
and in Scotland and the US..

Just not in England and Wales, but by all accounts the
newspapers are back in court tomorrow and should have the
ruling binned.

Apparently a lot of these no win no fee solicitors will if they
think you've a good case fight it on that bases..

The surprising thing for me is that the judges involved allow this sort of nonsense to bring the law into disrepute, because that is exactly what it is doing.

judges do not write the law, they only interpret it
if the law is (deemed to be) an ass, then it needs to be changed .... applies to tax avoidance as well

Good grief you RWR's really are off the wall, can you please keep your rants about Europe to the correct thread.

HAha..Since when has talking about a couple of a particularly
sexual oriantation be confused with the corrupt going ons in Brussels??...

Never mind. Stan is at that stage of life where he is easily confused. His missus is getting quite concerned, I hear. Has a tendency these days to wake up in the middle of the night shouting "right wingers!" Or something that sounds like that..

Trevor Phillips's documentary on Muslims was shocking - but not surprising
Channel 4's What British Muslims Really Think will come as no surprise to the British public, says James Delingpole

Our findings will shock many people,’ promised Trevor Phillips at the beginning of What British Muslims Really Think (Channel 4, Wednesday).

But the depressing thing is that I doubt they will, actually. I think the general British public have known for some time what Phillips’s documentary professed to find surprising: that large numbers of Muslims don’t want to integrate, that their views aren’t remotely enlightened, and that more than a few of them sympathise with terrorism. It’s only the establishment elite that has ever pretended otherwise.

As former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, Phillips was very much part of that elite. He commissioned the 1997 Runnymede report that popularised the word ‘Islamophobia’. The fact that so impeccably liberal a figure is now issuing a mea culpa like this speaks volumes about how dire the situation has grown. ‘Everyone who has pinned their hopes on the rise of reforming and liberal British Muslim voices are in for a disappointment,’ said Phillips. ‘These voices are nowhere near as numerous as they need to be to make an impact.
Here are the stats to prove it: 52 per cent of Britain’s three million Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal; 39 per cent think a woman should always obey her husband; 18 per cent sympathise with people who take part in violence against those who mock the Prophet; 4 per cent — that equates to about 100,000 Muslims — have ‘sympathy for people who take part in suicide bombing to fight injustice’. Oh, and if any of them knew someone was involved in supporting terrorism in Syria, just one in three would report it to the police. The other two million, then, would keep schtum.

Normally the PC response to these surveys is to shoot the messenger, as the BBC and the Guardian and the usual dhimmi apologists did last year, when the Sun revealed that one in four British Muslims sympathised with the motives of the Charlie Hebdo killers. They’ll find it harder this time, not just because Phillips is black and probably reads the Guardian, but also because the survey was so thorough. It was conducted, face to face, by people of the same religion. And when it came to the really tricky question — the one about terrorism — a blank envelope was provided for the answer, so that respondents felt freer to say what they really thought

There wasn’t much to disagree with in this brave and honest programme, except for the odd momentary lapse, as when Phillips said, of Islamophobia, ‘I’ve no doubt that most of it emanates from sheer blind prejudice.’ I doubt even he believes that excuse any more. It was just a legacy of the kind of language all public figures were pretty much forced to use about the Religion of Peace till quite recently — Cameron showing the way with that disingenuous speech about ‘moderate and reforming voices who speak for the vast majority of Muslims’.

Of course we’d all like to believe that stuff, but the truth just doesn’t accord with the fantasy. Take those 85 Sharia councils currently violating one of the most basic principles of English justice — equality before the law. Yes, we can cosily delude ourselves that they just deal with civil issues — marriage mainly — that can safely be regulated by religion. But can they? A Zurich professor called Elham Manea, herself a Muslim, had attended these courts and found them promoting a version of Islam as extreme as that practised in her native Yemen or by the Taliban, where women were treated as ‘minors in perpetual need of male guardianship’. How exactly does that accord with the legislation and practice of a country where men and women are supposed to have guaranteed equality?
Our solution up until now has been a kind of national cognitive dissonance — one where we all agree to pretend that Muslims are sweet, smiley and integrated, like lovely Nadiya from Great British Bake Off and that her fellow Lutonians — the 7/7 suicide bombers — have, as the weasel phrase has it, ‘nothing to do with Islam’.

It’s not easy, though, and getting harder — as we saw on this week’s The Island with Bear Grylls (Channel 4, Mondays). I don’t doubt the producers were overjoyed when they managed to recruit their first Muslim castaway — Bradford body-builder Rizwan Shabir. But any hopes of a male Nadiya vanished this week when he quit, pleading an inability to cope with ‘living with women who are half-naked’.

Hmm. Seems to me that even before the men encountered the women, he was struggling to integrate — or indeed pull his weight — and that persuading himself he was being a good Muslim was the perfect way of ducking out of more hardship at no cost to his ego.

I’ll leave the last word on this yawning cultural chasm to Noshaba Hussain, middle-aged former headmistress of Springfield Primary, one of the Trojan Horse schools in Birmingham. A nine-year-old pupil had asked why she wasn’t wearing a headscarf, declaring, ‘Only slags don’t cover their heads.’ ‘This attitude is not acceptable in state schools in Britain,’ observed Ms Hussain. Well indeed. As Ray Honeyford was so maligned for telling us just 32 years ago.

A ticking time bomb , all across Europe and practically supported by the cover up merchants like Merkel and friends who think that all will be well eventually .

Wrong thread RWR's.. this is the right one http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=19498#lastread

now let me scratch my head as to where i saw the following ......

"Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish"

Actually the subject jimmy is referring to does not mention Europe or the referendum so it's general interest and just because i mentioned EU so what .Not that anyone cares what you think , I would think .

That's obviously for stan , with a little S .

Well there's one thing you can say about Migrants , they ain't coming for the weather .

They are coming to visit you.

Might even move in next door to you.

Sad sod Freda aren't you . Strange think though seeing a lot of Far East types around here lately , have new neighbours ,a South African chappy and a I think Chinese wife two young daughters , nice couple . I told them I know A MISERABLE old git off the internet .

Just remember Fred HATES anything British ,and as for being patriotic ,don't even go there .

He's gone quiet , probably gone for a fitting for a new suit for Queens birthday celebrations .