Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Crumbs their cracking on their thinking now.. what next.

Perhaps the doctors can separate reality from ideological mayhem which the working proposals if introduce will create.

It is jumped up school boys once again drawing up plans without any work experience.

It seems to be such a familiar story doesn't it these day's Fred?

Oh Pleeeeeeeze Stanley, don't be such a whore! :0)

Making her bid for Cameron job?

Finally those killed at Hillsborough have had the truth come out. Football grounds were disorganised pits in those days but that didn't excuse the cover up by the police and previous coroner. Rest in peace lads. Liverpool walks on.

I know this sounds sour grapes , but Wimbledon champions will receive £2 million this year , and £28 million total prize money . Talk about being out of touch , but I suppose they're not really in the real world are they .

Lot of money VIC but i love Wimbledon ..

The grunts put me off a bit .

Depends who's doing them .

If it's ana ivanovic then it's ok

Another one go's into administration http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36137226

Disgusting: Bernard Ingham, Thatcher’s press secretary, flatly refuses to apologise despite Hillsborough verdict

He’s apparently been knighted, but there’s no way we’ll be adding the title to Bernard Ingham’s name during this or any other report.

Today, Margaret Thatcher’s former chief press secretary refused to apologise for his foul, false accusations which laid the blames for the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans at the feet of ‘tanked up yobs’.

The Echo challenged him at the door today after the Hillsborough inquest returned a verdict which completely exonerated supporters of any blame, and said the 96 were ‘unlawfully killed’ due to mistakes by the authorities. Ingham simply said he had ‘nothing to say’, despite the proof that his comments in the aftermath were entirely false.

While campaigners, family and the city celebrated the long-awaited verdict, attention turned to those who were actually guilty of manslaughter and the despicable coverup which followed – such as Ingham.

But it appears he’ll take the lies to his grave.

Ingham sent this letter to Liverpool fan Graham Skinner in 1996:

Thank you for your letter of December 11. I believe that there would have been no Hillsborough disaster if tanked-up yobs had not turned up in very large numbers to try to force their way into the ground.

I visited Hillsborough the day after the disaster and I know what I learned then. I have never denied that the police may have made mistakes, but I firmly believe that the Lord Chief Justice whitewashed the real culprits and I said so from the moment I read his report.

I have not seen the McGovern film. But I am long enough in the tooth to know that TV films should never be accepted as evidence. But let us suppose there is something in the film – for example, the “evidence” that the pens were already full when the gates were opened. What, then were all those people doing trying to get into the ground? I have never, of course, said where they came from because I do not know.

I have no intention of apologising for my views which are sincerely held on the basis of what I heard first hand at Hillsborough. I have, however, one suggestion to make: for its own good, Liverpool – with the Heysel disaster in the background – should shut up about Hillsborough.

“Nothing can now bring back those who died – innocent people who, by virtue of being in the ground early, had their lives crushed out of them by a mob surging in late.

To go on about it serves only to confirm in many people’s minds that Liverpool has a very bad conscience about soccer disasters. I think it a disgrace to the public service that South Yorkshire policemen have won the right to compensation. But it will do Liverpool no good whatsoever in the eyes of the nation if, egged on by ambulance-chasing lawyers, those who saw their relatives killed at Hillsborough now sue for compensation for the “trauma”. Is the pain of losing a relative to be soothed away by a fat cheque?

Take my advice, Mr Skinner: least said, soonest mended for Liverpool.

In truth, an apology from Ingham would mean nothing now anyway. The important thing is he’s been proved immensely wrong and will go down as the perpetrator of injustice and little else.

Bernard Ingham made his comments based on what the police reported and the same can be said for the Sun newspaper. The comments were made by quite a few people who believed the police. You have to remember the incident happened during and against a backdrop of a period of football violence caused by drunken fans. It was the police who covered up their incompetence and invented spurious evidence.

Nothing to with me guv, just following orders, someone else's fault.. now where have we heard that recently?

Ingham, the Murdoch Press, the Thatcher government at the time all in the dock along with the South Yorkshire police.. the truth is out at last.

Haze.

Ingham seems to have opened his mouth before he knew and evaluated the facts.

He was supposed to be a journalist?

From memory it seemed at the time Maggie was delighted to accept the "police" opinion of the catastrophe.

Personally, I am a little surprised at the verdict to-day.

Terrible tragedy Hillsborough.....may it never happen again.....having people caged in like animals is partly to blame for the disaster that day....when there are tens of thousands of people in a stadium : security and their well-being should be an absolute priority !.....

The released Cabinet Papers show that Thatcher was misled by the police at the time. I am sure the lefties would love to pay some of the blame with the government of the period, but it is clearly not the case.

< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17238494

Having been in that Leppings Lane end a few seasons before the disaster, we were being crushed then and I can tell you now their is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Now we couldn't have been the 1st or the last to have experienced that, so how come the authorities didn't know about it? It's a national scandal.

H/S stop trying to make excuses for the lazy, bent, complacent and good for nothing establishment.