Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Bernard Ingham made his comments based on what the police reported and the same can be said for the Sun newspaper. The comments were made by quite a few people who believed the police. You have to remember the incident happened during and against a backdrop of a period of football violence caused by drunken fans. It was the police who covered up their incompetence and invented spurious evidence.

Nothing to with me guv, just following orders, someone else's fault.. now where have we heard that recently?

Ingham, the Murdoch Press, the Thatcher government at the time all in the dock along with the South Yorkshire police.. the truth is out at last.

Haze.

Ingham seems to have opened his mouth before he knew and evaluated the facts.

He was supposed to be a journalist?

From memory it seemed at the time Maggie was delighted to accept the "police" opinion of the catastrophe.

Personally, I am a little surprised at the verdict to-day.

Terrible tragedy Hillsborough.....may it never happen again.....having people caged in like animals is partly to blame for the disaster that day....when there are tens of thousands of people in a stadium : security and their well-being should be an absolute priority !.....

The released Cabinet Papers show that Thatcher was misled by the police at the time. I am sure the lefties would love to pay some of the blame with the government of the period, but it is clearly not the case.

< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17238494

Having been in that Leppings Lane end a few seasons before the disaster, we were being crushed then and I can tell you now their is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Now we couldn't have been the 1st or the last to have experienced that, so how come the authorities didn't know about it? It's a national scandal.

H/S stop trying to make excuses for the lazy, bent, complacent and good for nothing establishment.

The fault lies with the Club and the police.

Oh just belt up H/S, no one believes a word you say on here these days as we know your biased on "Con" Party involvement.

Haze,

I was led to believe that Thatcher was infallible.

Don't tell me she was gullible or believed what she wanted to and made mistakes.

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What a couple of lefty idiots ,what happened was a terrible tragedy and they are trying to milk this by blaming Thatcher .
Like you put my name to a picture of a dead child Fred ,you again should be ashamed of your self .

You still here mouth head, can't get back in eh.. not surprising of course.

That's his problem jimmy he's no better than the subjects he ridicules , drops down to gutter level to try to impress .

Pot & kettle alert!

And the standard of company he keeps is also gutter level .

Dumbo, and 215


Thatcher and Ingham were setting the tone for the investigation of Hillsborough Tragedy.

Also, there was an attempt by the establishment to waylay those investigations.

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Perhaps, the right wing of the tory party and Europe as a whole should reconsider the value of a "dead" child, and their immigration policies and actions.

"tory party and Europe as a whole should reconsider the
value of a 'dead' child, and their immigration policies"

No I don't think so, though i'm not in favour of allowing hundreds
of thousands 'refugees' to come to the UK, then the best option is to take them from the camps in the ME, rather then fools like fred/stan encouraging any of these 'refugees' to make these dangerous sea journeys.

As to the crass statement once again from fred about the
'dead' child..The only one's who should feel guilty about the outcome of
their attempts at getting to Europe is the childs parents....

ignoring fred entirely (as for 95% of the time) .......

the vote not to allow unlimited unaccompanied young (orphaned) children into uk does not sit comfortably, though i accept it is a bit of an emotional response

b4 certain people get on the bandwagon, the kindertransport trains actually rescued very few, and much of that was due to the superb efforts + subterfuge and other means of just a handful of instigators