Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Dumbo, and 215


Thatcher and Ingham were setting the tone for the investigation of Hillsborough Tragedy.

Also, there was an attempt by the establishment to waylay those investigations.

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Perhaps, the right wing of the tory party and Europe as a whole should reconsider the value of a "dead" child, and their immigration policies and actions.

"tory party and Europe as a whole should reconsider the
value of a 'dead' child, and their immigration policies"

No I don't think so, though i'm not in favour of allowing hundreds
of thousands 'refugees' to come to the UK, then the best option is to take them from the camps in the ME, rather then fools like fred/stan encouraging any of these 'refugees' to make these dangerous sea journeys.

As to the crass statement once again from fred about the
'dead' child..The only one's who should feel guilty about the outcome of
their attempts at getting to Europe is the childs parents....

ignoring fred entirely (as for 95% of the time) .......

the vote not to allow unlimited unaccompanied young (orphaned) children into uk does not sit comfortably, though i accept it is a bit of an emotional response

b4 certain people get on the bandwagon, the kindertransport trains actually rescued very few, and much of that was due to the superb efforts + subterfuge and other means of just a handful of instigators

The whole 'refugee' saga and cases of these 'orphaned' children
is just a phoney attempt at sentimentality by the bleeding heart
open door liberals..

Once these 'orphaned' children arrive in the UK, then no sooner
do their 'parents' turn up magically like a puff of smoke..
And as we know by a recent ECHR's judgement which stated that
if a 'child refugee' was in the UK then it's immediate family would
be allowed to enter also, after suddenly being found......

Granny's boy.

What have you got that you are frightened to lose or share?

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Interesting little article as a comparison of 1940s/

C+P


In September 1939, the ideological affinity between the USA and Britain was unquestionable, yet large swathes of the US public, media and politicians were deeply isolationist. With hindsight, many people resented America’s involvement in the First World War. The desire to ‘avoid foreign entanglements’ and focus on domestic issues was widespread.

When war broke out in Europe, US President Franklin Roosevelt recognised that the conflict threatened US security, and looked for ways to help the European democracies without direct involvement in the war. This necessity increased in June 1940, when the Fall of France left Britain as the only democracy standing between Nazi Germany and America. In 1939, the Fourth Neutrality Act authorised the US to trade arms with belligerents provided that the countries paid in cash and collected them. In March 1941, Roosevelt moved further towards making the US the ‘arsenal of democracy’ with the Lend-Lease Act, which permitted the lending, leasing, selling, or bartering of arms, ammunition and food to “any country whose defence the President deems vital to the defence of the US.”


Look at the similarities.

If USA hadn't come to the rescue of Britain and Europe in 1941, against the advice of many advisors England may have become a minor state of Germany.

America accepted its responsibility.

So should Europe now do similar, rather than practising amoral ducking and weaving?

Absolute rubbish from the threads idiot fred...I don't know if its just me, but everytime i hear about how the WHOLE WORLD came to the aid of Britain and save them in their hour of need.....

LETS GET THINGS STRAIGHT SHALL WE...IT WAS A SELF PRESERVATION INTERVENTION BY ALL THOSE WHO WANTED TO DEFEND THE FREE WORLD.

IF IT WERN'T FOR A JOINT CAMPAIGN THEN THE COUNTRIES THAT DIDN'T JOIN THE FIGHT FOR THE FREE WORLD AND HITLER HAD SUCCEEDED THEN HE WOULD'VE TURNED HIS ATTENTION ONTO THEM..

OK guys.....

Q. Whose shares do you have to buy to make an investment in 'spray-on-solar paint'?

Random polarity of millions of tiny Photo Voltaic cell chips would be a catastrophe.
Spray paint doesn't sound very conducive to alignment of the polarity of the tiny PV chips. What's needed is a fabric or lattice of nano PV material which can be laid down (oriented) and then bonded down with a spray paint and makes the PV particles behave.

If this fabric is 'clear' then every window can be made into a DC generator. Connect them all together and then into the Grid. Job done! And it's 'Bye Bye' Saudi Arabia, etc.

Granny's boy,

Are you shouting?


Check the history of that period.

Re-read the C+P.

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United States non-interventionism 1930s, 1940s





Non-interventionism, the diplomatic policy whereby a nation seeks to avoid alliances with other nations in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to direct territorial self-defense, has had a long history of popularity in the government and among the people of the United States at various periods in time.



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Many would think similar to beliefs and attitudes to the present day little englanders.

Fred1new Send an email to Fred1new View Fred1new's profile - 27 Apr 2016 12:43 - 70475 of 70477

Granny's boy.

What have you got that you are frightened to lose or share?
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What a first class idiot you are Fred ,we don't want an invasion (and yes it is an invasion)of our country , end of .

Instead of Wind Turbines and solar panels or any other 'green' energy..

What should happen is close energy consuming organisations like those in Brussels, who every other week transfer themselves and their entourage to Strasburg to conduct their bureaucratic dictatorship in luxury.

And name and shame all these 'green' lobiest who spout the mantra "Do as I say not as I do" as when they take private jets to their destinations..

fred YOU really do need to read what even YOU C&P....You moron..

And also to the generosity of the US..It's only recently that the UK has
finished paying off the war debt to America in the fight for a free world.....LMAO!

Post 70471-----Eh! Fred you are confused.
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DOCTORS
there's no doubt that neither side in this dispute has covered itself with glory

jeremy hunt has has been unbelievably inept, though quite what his real agenda is i do not know
bma, as far as i can see, also has little interest in negotiating a settlement - eg it sets preconditions before any discussion

this whole dispute has degenerated into one regarding MONEY, which i think is entirely the wrong focus

there can be no dispute that nhs has a truly astronomical budget, so .......
is this money being wisely spent?
i suspect that far too much is spent on non-productive management and filling in paperwork to avoid any chance of litigation should something go awry

there can also be no dispute that (a) we really should have a 7-day service and (b) there just aren't enough doctors, or indeed other medical staff, to do this efficiently and effectively

it therefore seems to me that the whole discussion between this gov't and indeed its predecessors and the assorted medical bodies, should be about encouraging doctors and other staff to stay on after qualification ....... and that really isn't or shouldn't be just about "how much will you pay" and "whose taxes should we raise to this"

It takes time to build an extension and when it's built you want to be able to choose who comes to stay.

Take those against any immigration and the clan open door/everyone is good, give each group their own island, let common sense reign in the rest of the UK.

Child refugees - parent shenanigans aside:

How do we treat orphans born in the UK? Do we currently have the people and facilities to give the refugee children a good home? If not, how long will it take? Where will they be placed in the short term? And so on. Or, don't bother about that and get stuck into a points scoring game of Think Of The Children - the loser to be declared an uncaring, murderous bastard and required to grow a Chaplin moustache.

Merkel; has blood on her hands.

Cheers,
KidA

Stan Send an email to Stan View Stan's profile - 27 Apr 2016 16:09 - 411 of 411

"mentor (and his other aliases) is just a plain nasty piece of work who specialises in personal and racist abuse
quite why the management continues to tolerate him, i really do not know"

Bit like your mob on here then Alf.
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What's up Stan ,you can dish it out but not take it , just like Fred if people don't agree with you two then they are plainly wrong , have you not thought that just about everybody on here thinks that the both of you talk crap. Hope that helps.

Pot & Kettle alert!

And you seem to be both.

You of all people on here are in no position to comment on others.

very steptoe and son :-)