Trading statement today - not good and shares have halved - just starting a thread in case anyone is interested in looking for the dcb ....

Currently 19p to buy - not thinking of buying at this time but just started tracking



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last bought 25/02 @ 12.5 last sold 26/02 for 10% gain

Waiting for 3p, then buy.

patient teddy

Doesnt look good from where I'm sitting so I guess its best to sit on the sidelines till they sort their problems out..

Don't catch a falling knife, let the dust settle first.

wise teddy

I bought a few as part of an overnight play - 12.5p


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from the Telegraph

Traders spent yesterday speculating which companies would fall out of the FTSE 100 when it is reshuffled on March 12.

Hilary Cook, director of investment strategy at Barclays Private Clients, said troubled engineering group Invensys, which last night had a market cap of about 440m, was "pretty much certain" to fall out of the list of leading blue-chip shares at the quarterly update.


Fears that Invensys may breach its banking covenants were behind the shares' tumble yesterday. Under the covenants, interest payments must be covered 3.5 times by earnings before interest, taxation, depreciation and amortisation.

Some analysts believe that while the company will comfortably meet that requirement this year, it will come close to testing those levels in 2004.

They said Invensys has some breathing space as it has no debt payable before June 2004 but with ratings agency Standard & Poor's placing its rating on negative outlook, any further deterioration in trading could be critical. Invensys fell 2 to 12.5p on heavy volumes.

However, a spokesman for Invensys said: "You would have to put on a pretty apocalyptic projection for us to breach the covenants." He said interest was currently covered 5.3 times and that disposals would reduce interest charges next year.

There we go ..... first talk of a potential bid


TIMES
Invensys showed no signs of reversing its post-profit- warning slide, 2p lower to 12p, valuing its equity at just 438 million. Although it is saddled with 1.6 billion of debt, some analysts believe it is now at a level where the likes of GE and Honeywell of the US, or Schneider of France, may consider a break-up approach.

Heading the risers charts :-)) ..... plus 10%




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Will cash my profits ..... 2nd time since thread started ..... will look for another entry another day



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reuters

Battered engineering group Invensys was top FTSE 100 gainer, bouncing 10 percent to 14p after investment bank CSFB raised its rating to "neutral" from "underperform".

Bank your profit quick and buy a teddy bear to cuddle.

teddy

good morning.......had to get an upgrade to stop it going down the sewer....which is holsing them up but for how long?.....are moody's still stalking them?.....all the best

this is a st trading thread rather than a pension plan but think it was bouncing regardless of the upgrade


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02/26 11:08
Invensys May Sell More Assets to Protect Bank Agreements
By Andrew Noel


London, Feb. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Invensys Plc, a U.K. electronics and engineering company built through $2.5 billion of takeovers, may sell parts of its business to avoid breaking bank covenants.

The disposal of units spanning rail-signaling, wind power and power supply products is just one of a range of options the company is considering if financial results don't improve later this year, Invensys director Victoria Scarth said. Scarth declined to discuss other options under consideration.

``We've been reviewing the tactics within our strategy and what will be required under a number of scenarios since the end of 2002 so we're on the case,'' Scarth said in a telephone interview. ``We wouldn't hesitate and we will do what is necessary so we do not break our covenants.''

Invensys expects to ``comfortably'' exceed loan conditions at the next test at the end of March, though a similar review in September may be more difficult, analysts said. Chief Executive Officer Rick Haythornthwaite has already sold 1.8 billion pounds' ($2.8 billion) worth of businesses to halve debt. Still, second- half profit may still fall short of analysts' forecasts, the company has said.

Teddy is right. Don't catch a falling knife.

wise teddy

tracking for another bite at the cherry or is it a prune :-))


LONDON, Feb 26 (Reuters) - Shares in British engineering firm Invensys ISYS.L rose on Wednesday, buoyed by speculation that a rival firm could launch a bid to break up the company as it fights to cope with falling sales, dealers said.

By 1157 GMT the stock was up four percent at 13 pence, bucking a weak wider market trend. The shares have lost over 60 percent in the last two weeks, hurt by deepening worries about its performance and persistent talk it was in danger of breaching its banking agreements.

Invensys told Reuters it was "clear and unequivocal" that it would not break its banking covenants, however.

"We are fully appraised of the possibilities on the upside and the downside at the moment and we have a number of options that mean we are just not going to let that happen. That is just clear and unequivocal," spokeswoman Victoria Scarth said.

But dealers said shares in Invensys, which makes controls and automation equipment for factories, offices and homes, had got down to a level which could draw out a bidder.

"The company is either going to go bust, or it will attract a break-up," said one dealer.

"At this level it's likely to attract a break-up," the dealer said, adding such a bid was likely to come from a U.S.-based rival firm.

Invensys's Scarth declined to comment on the talk, but said the speculation was "a natural consequence of a market that is pretty volatile and our share price which is weak."


ANALYSTS RAISE BID HOPES

Investment bank Credit Suisse First Boston has raised its rating on the stock to "neutral" from "underperform", but cut its share price target to 25 pence from 32p.

"Although we continue to believe that Invensys is losing market share and will miss its margin targets, overriding these concerns is our belief that Invensys is unlikely to remain as an independent plc in the long term," said CSFB in a note.

"If Invensys is broken up, we see a `break-up' valuation of 34p."

The Financial Times reported on Wednesday that Invensys is considering more disposals.

Hilary Cook, investment director at Barclays Private Clients said Invensys had some businesses that would be attractive to the likes of Siemens SIEGn.DE and General Electric GE.N .

"Do they (Siemens and GE) want to risk a big bid, a potentially hostile bid, at this stage in their business cycle when they can probably pick up the customers anyway?" said Cook.

Im in this one big time for a big time rise tomorrow.

February 27, 2003

Stock Markets by Nick Hasell TIMES

Break-up hopes help Invensys to halt slide



HOPES of further disposals and a mooted break-up valuation of nearly three times its current share price enabled Invensys to halt its steep slide.

Shares in the industrial automation and controls closed at 13p on Tuesday, against the 52p at which they traded at the start of the month, before fears of a profit warning disastrously fulfilled on February 14 began to take hold.

Although Invensys has reassured that its banking covenants are not under threat, followers took heart from reports yesterday that the company, which only completed a 1.8 billion disposal programme last year, may consider a further round of sales to shore up its finances.

Credit Suisse First Boston, which under Dan Manor, its now-departed engineering analysts, accurately predicted this months warning, also helped sentiment by upgrading its recommendation from underperform to neutral.

The Swiss broker suggests that Invensys continues to lose market share and may miss even its reduced margin targets, but places greater emphasis on a likely break-up of the company, on which it puts a 34p-a-share valuation. CSFB believes its production management business, which it values at 810 million, could draw interest from the likes of Siemens and GE, which are keen to expand in process automation, while parts of its energy management division, on which it places a 2 billion price tag, could be picked off by private equity players such as KKR. Schneider of France is also seen as a possible buyer of its power systems arm. With that view taking hold, Invensys added p to 13p.

upgraded by Credit Suisse First Boston and a fresh press report on its strategy going forward, traders said.

In an early note, CSFB raised its rating to 'neutral' from 'underperform', saying in the long-term Invensys is likely to be broken up and at current levels the risk reward ratio is looking attractive. The broker set a break-up value of 34 pence, but cut its target to 25 pence from 32, warning that Invensys is losing market share and will undershoot its margin targets.

CSFB sliced its second half forecasts on Invensys to reflect the poor economic outlook, geopolitical concerns and its own belief that efficiency gains were just 30m, it said. It has cut its forecast for second half 2003 core EBITA to 111m from 145m. Turning to the full year 2004, it has lowered its margin forecast to 6.6% from 8.2 pct, and dropped its EPS forecast to 1.19 pence from 2.8 pence. On its 2004 forecasts, it noted that Invensys trades at 13.4 times projected earnings and 0.65 times EV/sales. And just this morning, the Financial Times reported that Invensys is considering a fresh disposal programme if growing pension liabilities and collapsing sales combine to lead it to break its banking covenants.

The latest fear is that the trading performance and an estimated pensions deficit of 400m will mean Invensys breaks agreements designed to secure 1.5 bln stg of remaining debt, the newspaper said. Although Invensys insisted in its Feb 14 trading statement -- in which it warned on profits -- that this would not happen, it has since emerged that the company's contingency plan involves further large disposals, the article added.

heavy volumes again and up nearly 10% intraday - leading the FTSE100 risers

Still ticking up and heading the top 100 risers intraday - plus 15.28% @ 15p


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