dai oldenrich
- 20 Apr 2006 09:41
Xstrata is a major global diversified mining group. Xstrata maintains a meaningful position in six major international commodity markets: copper, coking coal, thermal coal, ferrochrome, vanadium and zinc, with additional exposures to gold, lead and silver. The Groups operations and projects span four continents and seven countries: Australia, South Africa, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Peru and the UK.

Red = 25 day moving average. Green = 200 day moving average.
SALES PER ACTIVITY (Data as of 31/12/2005)
Coal: 42%
Copper: 25%
Zinc: 18%
Chrome: 10%
Vanadium: 4%
Others: 1%
cynic
- 21 Feb 2008 12:12
- 71 of 224
because it's nickel probably
ahoj
- 21 Feb 2008 12:37
- 72 of 224
Oh yes!
Any other reason? A bit more complicated reason please.
halifax
- 21 Feb 2008 13:31
- 73 of 224
Also political unrest due to corruption allegations against the President's husband. Here we go again!
cynic
- 21 Feb 2008 14:27
- 74 of 224
just in from Reuter's at 13:57 ..... is it true, not least becasue sp has perversely gone into reverse
Brazilian miner Vale has raised its bid for rival Xstrata by 17 percent to more than $89 billion, and a formal offer is expected in the coming days, a source with direct knowledge of the merger talks said on Thursday.
The source, who asked to be unnamed, said the company has raised its bid to 47 pounds a share from 40 pounds. Xstrata, an Anglo-Swiss miner, declined to comment on the matter.
Vale has secured bridge loans of $50 billion from a pool of banks.
A second source close to the negotiations said Vale President Roger Agnelli and the company's financial director, Fabio Barbosa, were still finalizing takeover talks in London at Xstrata's offices.
Any formal offer that is presented Xstrata will need to be presented to Vale's board for approval.
HARRYCAT
- 21 Feb 2008 16:32
- 75 of 224
Another string to the XTA bow, which will presumably push up the XTA asking price:
"LONDON (Thomson Financial) - Xstrata PLC said its wholly-owned unit, Xstrata Nickel Australia Pty Ltd's (XNA), takeover offer for Jubilee Mines NL will not be extended anymore and will close on Feb 22 at 7:00 pm Sydney time.
Xstrata said XNA, which has a 96.85 pct stake in Jubilee, has started the compulsory acquisition procedure today in respect of all outstanding Jubilee shares and intends to remove Jubilee from the official list of the ASX at the end of this process."
Toya
- 24 Feb 2008 15:14
- 76 of 224
From today's Sunday Times:
"Senior banking sources said Vale was close to tabling an offer for Xstrata of 46 a share. A deal at that price would value Xstrata at 44 billion. Xstrata shares closed the week at 40... Analysts say the greater the share element in the offer, the higher the bid price will have to be. Advisers to Vale last week sounded out hedge fund and other investors - including Blackrock and Marshall Wace - about a 46 offer, but some City institutions are holding out for closer to 50."
For full article click below:
Xstrata mega deal nears
Toya
- 27 Feb 2008 20:23
- 77 of 224
From this evening's bulleting from ADVFN:
"Xstrata was 47 higher at 4,135 on rumours that Anglo American was to bid 5,000 pence a share for the group."
The rumour could explain the sudden surge at the end of the day.
cynic
- 28 Feb 2008 08:27
- 78 of 224
the latest report is that Glencore and Vale cannot agree terms and thus Vale's bid may very well collapse .... hence sp reaction down to 3950 this morning.
arguably an interesting punt at this level ..... for myself, i still hold some which i rashly bought a couple of weeks at 4175 and am glad i took a modest profit yesterday afternoon on a smaller number
cynic
- 29 Feb 2008 08:11
- 79 of 224
"Xstrata: Glencore on the brink" appeared in today's MAM round up from Lombard (FT) ..... as this publication has no topless models, i do not read it, so please can someone expand - i.e. on the brink of walking away from each other or actually agreeing a deal?
this morning's sp has scarcely moved, so no clue there!
Toya
- 11 Mar 2008 07:24
- 80 of 224
This in today's Times - Cynic you probably don't read that either, if the above is anything to go by, so just click on the link below:
Falling shares nudge Vale towards dropping Xstrata pursuit
HARRYCAT
- 11 Mar 2008 09:51
- 81 of 224
Sp currently 3740p.
Have seen a current valuation of 3400p per share if the Vale bid fails. 5000p if it succeeds. Don't currently hold, difficult decision, but the upside is looking appealing.
cynic
- 11 Mar 2008 10:07
- 82 of 224
5000 is wildly optimistic ..... Vale started at 4000 and were then persuaded to 4500, but ..... no one else currently in the frame
cynic
- 25 Mar 2008 23:31
- 83 of 224
bugger .....
Companhia Vale do Rio Doce said late Tuesday it has halted negotiations to buy rival mining company Xstrata Plc.
The Brazilian company said it put forward a cash-and-shares offer for Xstrata which it believes would have created 'significant value for both sets of shareholders.'
'Given that an agreement was not reached, discussions between the parties have been discontinued,' the company said in a release.
Toya
- 26 Mar 2008 06:28
- 84 of 224
Bit of a bore, as you say Cynic....
cynic
- 26 Mar 2008 07:56
- 85 of 224
advised that opening forecast to be down 4.00 at 33.00
cynic
- 26 Mar 2008 08:21
- 86 of 224
bit the bullet at 3350 .... could have been far worse .... thank goodness i only had a fairly sensibly sized holding
i would not be surprised to see XTA continue to fall, for though sp has taken a big whack, it is very possible there will be some heavy players now being forced to sell ...... this could also impact the market in general
ahoj
- 26 Mar 2008 12:20
- 87 of 224
I hate Chinese and Indian companies. They buy British assets at low prices. Clear expamples are Corus, Rover (1), Invensys assets (1), and now Jaguar and LandRover.
The Invensys assets (CompAir) is being sold at 200mln after five years. They certainly laugh at ISYS shareholders and praise the City Analysts.
HARRYCAT
- 26 Mar 2008 14:00
- 88 of 224
What has that got to do with XTA, VALE or the mining sector?
ahoj
- 26 Mar 2008 17:18
- 89 of 224
XTA worth more than the offer.... should get there on its own. IMO
Toya
- 02 Apr 2008 09:35
- 90 of 224
Cynic, if you are holding XTA again, this might cheer you (from a MAM general FSTE update):
"Xstrata bucked the trend that saw commodities stocks moving lower, taking on 14p at 3,488p, after the CEO of its Brazilian suitor, Vale, said at a news conference that negotiations could resume between the two companies.
Xstrata was also helped by Citigroup resuming coverage of the mining group at 'buy' and lifting its price target to 4,500p from 4,000p, saying it believes a future tie-up between the two groups remains a distinct possibility, but even without a deal it sees underlying value in Xstrata."