Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

So where are you lot off to if not to 7104?

Manuel and Dil.

You can set up a little isolated england and the 13th county and rule it as a thiefdom.

Mind gradually, little england will be more and more spurned by the rest of the world.

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The universality of international laws, trading rules and regulations would be beneficial would be of benefit.

If you don't like the rules negotiate against them and get them reformed.

Don't stumble off like decrepit adolescent school boys who can't get their own way by blustering, shouting its unfair because we can't get our own ways.

Like Cameron after his negotiations for sod all from the EU bureaucrats, is that what you mean Fred? As for being spurned by the rest of the world the opposite seems to be the case. Tell me, why do you not wish to trade worldwide, why are you so intent on only dealing with the shrinking (GDP) EU.

Europe English


The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer.



Ze drem vil finali kum tru!

So where are you lot off to if not to 7104?

Come on I need to know.

Who says we have to be off to anywhere Stan?

Theresa May is in a mess because she isn't a proper Brexiteer. The next Prime Minister must be

By
Tim Stanley

17 July 2017 • 6:22pm




David Davis has emerged in the last few weeks as a man of stature and integrity Credit: Geert Vanden Wijngaert/AP




Who should replace Theresa May as prime minister? The answer is not who but what: a Brexiteer. And I mean a proper Brexiteer, not one of these late converts. An old money, Churchill-quoting true believer who knows their Article 50 from their elbow.

Technically speaking, the position isn’t vacant. I’d rather it remained so. Theresa May is the only MP with any mandate from the electorate to govern and I truly believe she could turn things around given a chance. But party discipline has been lost, as the row over Cabinet leaks shows.

The Tories are Darwinian: they cannot be led by weakness. Husbands and wives are whispering in MPs’ ears: “You could do a better job than her, darling. Your time has come.” And never, ever underestimate the ambition of even the most 
anonymous Tory MP.



More here, but you have to pay:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/17/theresa-may-mess-isnt-proper-brexiteer-next-prime-minister-must/

Stan,

They could move into Nigel's pad in Armagnac, in France.

Thankfully, he doesn't seem to want to come back.

I'm afraid that's not far away enough Fred... I was rather hoping a different continent ):-

Max, because as you and most of the others on here seem to dislike being in Europe so much and (we most probably will still be in it) you will be looking elsewhere to live.

It's you two idiots who should go and live somewhere else ,you hate the UK .

Germany's Schulz Threatens Cut In EU Funds For Anti-Migrant Countries
Tue, 18th Jul 2017 16:47

BERLIN (Alliance News) - EU funds should be awarded according to "solidarity" principles, German opposition leader Martin Schulz said Tuesday, hinting that Central and Eastern European countries who refuse to take in migrants should receive less from Brussels.

"There is no refugee crisis in Europe - we are a rich and huge continent and just have to distribute the refugees in a sensible way. What we have is a crisis of solidarity," the leader of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) wrote on Facebook.

"There are those countries that say yes to Europe when they get something. And they say no, when they are supposed to do something, like for example accepting refugees. This must end. As chancellor, I will veto any EU budget that is not based on the principle of solidarity," Schulz added.

In June, the European Commission started legal action against Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary for refusing to accept refugees from Italy and Greece, as part of a migration burden-sharing deal reached in 2015.

Former Italian premier Matteo Renzi was among the first, last year, to accuse EU peers from Central and Eastern Europe of selfishness on the migration crisis, and to threaten retaliation with a cut in EU funds for them.

"If you don't show solidarity on migration, I think it is absolutely legitimate for bigger countries to not show solidarity on [EU budget] contributions," Renzi said in February 2016.

Schulz' statement in support of the Italian position came as the SPD is battling to unseat German Chancellor Angela Merkel in September 24 elections. Polls suggest that Merkel is favoured to win what would be her fourth term in government.

wasn't schulz the creator of peanuts?

It's you two idiots who should go and live somewhere else ,you hate the UK .

JJ if you can't post without using abuse don't bother as I can see you getting the gooner like your mate GB...and yes we already know you don't care if you do get kicked out.

Silly Stan that's not abuse Fred calls me dumbo ,i just said you two should go and live elsewhere , can you read ? silly Stan .

Don't argue just reform.

Go and do something useful in your life Stan ,maybe do Fred's garden .

Pot and kettle alert.

Credit and debit card surcharges to be banned: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40648641

...It follows a directive from the European Union, which bans surcharges on Visa and Mastercard payments.

Another stupid ruling from the EU.

Sooner we get out the better.

8-)

Personal message for Dumbo and George.