Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

All that this is going to do, is lift up prices charged to everyone by 2-3% to pay for it.

How daft.

Surprise surprise...



EU's Brexit chiefs want to 'punish' Britain to stop other countries leaving, senior German MEP claims




By Jack Maidment, Political Correspondent
19 July 2017 • 9:03am




A senior German MEP has warned that two of the EU’s top Brexit chiefs want to “punish” Britain to stop other countries trying to leave the bloc.

Hans-Olaf Henkel, the vice chairman of the European Conservatives and Reformists Group, urged the UK “not to listen” to Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, and Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament’s Brexit coordinator.

It comes as EU and UK officials engage in a third day of talks in Brussels as the two sides seek to hammer out the terms of Britain’s divorce deal.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/19/eus-brexit-chiefs-want-punish-britain-stop-countries-leaving/

Endorses what we already knew, they are happy to be friends with us as long as we keep paying the money.

Three days to tell them to feck off ?

Geez give me the job and I'll have it all done and dusted and out by Christmas.

We aren't going to get a deal so sod them.

There is one amusing aspect of the nurses being sued for parking charges.

Corbyn and the left have been tweeting about how disgusting it it is of Hunt to attack the nurses.
They have all had to delete the tweets after it was pointed out that the hospital is in Cardiff and Labour run the NHS in Wales.

I think the same they do not want any other EU countries to see a decent settlement in case it gives them ideas .It will all have to be their way .I hope Dave Davies is not going to buckle to their crap.

Ah DD... the one and only Brexit Bulldog and Master negotiator no less -):

Hays I pointed that out to Stan and Fred but I don't believe the Welsh government have anything to do with parking charges I think it's down to Cardiff and the Vale Health Trust.

Post 7143
That's about par for the course from those lying, not so bright lefty thugs

Where is the swastika hidden?

Reckon they owe UK £100 billion. Perhaps Blair et al the crooks that sold UK out should help out. Pull out now. JFDI.

JFDI.?

Just F~~king do it.

Got it -):

I cant help myself about the EU.

Not anti European as I lived and worked in Germany Belgium Sweden a lot over the past 25 years. For long periods.

A bit of clarity for Barnier.

On citizens rights we have set out our proposals and you can stick your EU court where the sun doesn't shine they will have no jurisdiction over citizens living in our country.

Divorce bill , you can keep the buildings , chairs , tables , etc that we have paid for but you can take a run and jump if you think we are paying another penny towards your crackpot schemes when we leave.

Ireland , butt out and we'll sort it out ourselves with Dublin. You were no fecking help during the troubles and we can see you being no fecking help now.

Regards

Dil

Yes quite Dil...slightly off topic but some bad news to report I'm afraid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40671900

Bad news you ask? well yes as it means when we do actually establish that we are "staying" in the EU it will mean a probable flood of immigrants from our Principality as they peddle over on their Bikes!

Government might be losing the Brexit spin battle, but it's triumphing on substance

By
Fraser Nelson

21 July 2017 • 6:00am


Strictly speaking, Britain is not allowed to hold trade talks with anyone until we have left the European Union. But no one in London or Washington wants to wait that long so, on Monday, talks to establish a free-trade agreement will begin.

It’s a fairly historic moment: Robert Lighthizer, the US trade representative, will meet Liam Fox to discuss what American officials describe as “ways to strengthen trade and commercial ties”. To have this happen so soon is more than any Brexiteer dared predict. Rather than be at the back of the queue, as Barack Obama had rather absurdly threatened, Britain is sneaking to the front

This fits a trend. Brazil is keen to start talks with Britain, as are Australia and Turkey. They might be bemused at the political mess in Westminster but they seek closer links to our economy, the fifth largest in the world.

We have a newly competitive currency, fuelling demand...



More behind the paywall: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/21/government-might-losing-brexit-spin-battle-triumphing-substance/

Get it right Stan , we can already get into your shitty country for free and the tolls are there to stop the bloody Wurzels invading us :-)

I'd be interested to learn the PRIMARY reason why Brexiters on this thread voted Brexit.

Was it:

1) To gain back border control and stop the tide of Eastern European immigration, and the damage it does on the UK infrastructure (housing/schools/hospitals)?

2) To stop perceived EU interference in the UK's affairs?

3) To halt the annual outflow of money to the EU?

4) To give the UK the opportunity to negotiate trade deals with the rest of the world?