Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

curious ...... from FT

US diplomats urge strikes on Syria regime
Dozens sign document urging military action to force settlement of conflict

Well you've got to ask yourself sometime if its worth having these
MP surgery's in the first place, seeing as most of these mp's don't
give a fig about the opinions of their constituents and they follow party
policy...As an example, the MP for Plymouth who held an on line poll
to judge the feeling for a remain or a Leave in the referendum, and
when the poll results showed that 70% wanted to LEAVE this mp went
on the Daily Politics and said he would be voting to remain, Just like
his Labour party policy...

so let's abandon surgeries ..... you can then (rightly) accuse mps of being completely out of touch with their constituents and the world outside parliament

whether an mp has a greater obligation to their constituents or to the party line is a moot point ..... or should they vote according to their personal conviction?

the debate for the reintroduction of hanging might be such an issue, though i accept that in that instant there never was any party line

The MP may have disagreed with his constituents. MPs often do not vote as the public might want. The classic example is capital punishment. If MPs voted with the public, we would still have capital punishment.

MPs do care about the opinions of their constituents. A common complaint is that the public are not listened to. What that means is that various pressure groups do not get what they want. The reality is that their voice may be heard and then a decision is made and is not necessarily what some people want. You have a right to be heard but not to have what you want.

My son worked as an intern for a government minister in the constituency office. He spent most of his time sorting of the problems of constituents. The Minister took a lot trouble to be briefed on the details of cases and offered additional help if the cases could not be resolved.

I see the lack of proper judgement:

From FT

US diplomats urge strikes on Syria regime
Dozens sign document urging military action to force settlement of conflict

repeated post

the man was a mental nutter out of is mind .listen to the locals on the issue .

didn't know i had a bad echo nicknamed ahoj :-)

Sorry, I did't mean anything, but pointing on their narrow minded views.

They must have too many bombs unused and need to replaced old stock .

There's a number of the indigenous population that feel seriously dis-
enfranchised, they feel that their voices are being ignored, some see
immigrants coming into the country and having more say then them,
who were born, lived and worked here all their lives.

There are lots of area's where the indigenous population's vote is meaningless
due to 'minorities' bloc voting.

It's getting to the stage where for many voting is a waste of time, this
referendum is the only vote that EACH individual will feel gives them at
least 'some' resemblance of democracy...

Immigrants not born here cannot vote in General Elections no mater if EU or non EU until they become full UK citizens.

Yes haystack you are splitting hairs once again....

have listened to all and the only way is to vote

OUT OUT OUT

Not splitting hairs, just the facts. You are implying that immigrants come here and vote. That is not a problem.

We actually have a low number of immigrants compared to other countries. I do agree that immigration needs to be controlled to the point where we just take the ones of value to us. We have had far too much immigration in the recent past. During the Blair years, Labour went looking for more immigrants to change to demographics of voters so that that they could stay in power longer. They then lied about the process and the numbers as documents released a few years ago reveal.

I am voting out, but not because of immigration. I don't like the EU as a body. We joined the Common Market and now it is a political body. It doesn't matter what concession we get from the EU. A Labour government in the future will give away all our rights. The only safe route is to leave.

HAY YOU HAVE POSTED FACTS THANK YOU YES THE LEFTY WILL SELL US OUT SO VOTE OUT NOW

Cameron would sell the country out before Labour got anywhere near
power if the vote was to remain.

If its a vote to stay then its goodbye UK.

"You are implying that immigrants come here and vote."

No they come here then get the vote, and yes its a problem, as i stated
those that were born here, worked here and contributed to the system for years
and then when it comes to voting find their votes mean diddly squat.

As to the UK having a low number of immigrants compared to
other countries, maybe thats because we are the most populated country
in europe as it is..

Germany has 82.4m people
France has 63.5m people
and
UK has 60.2m

But look at the land masses also. France 551,695 km2; Germany 357,050 km2; UK 244,820 km2. UK is most highly populated per km2. Perhaps we should reclaim Brittany and Normandy.