goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 17 Jun 2016 22:09
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Excuses for behaviour and wishes comes to mind.
VICTIM
- 18 Jun 2016 07:26
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And so do you Freda .
grannyboy
- 18 Jun 2016 08:24
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Does France have millions on zero hours contracts, does France have
millions on temporary work?...Does France have as many quango's as
they do here?..
MaxK
- 18 Jun 2016 10:05
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Funny enough Granny.
France does indeed have zero hour contracts, lots of them.
They also go in for "interns" in a big way, ie, people working for little or nothing in the hope of eventually getting a full time job with a given org. Needless to say, it's a long shot. (cheap flexible labour basically)
Outside the heavily unionised/gov jobs, it's a rum deal for the average worker...gone are the days of job security.
Haystack
- 18 Jun 2016 11:22
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There have been zero hours contracts for yeas and years. It was previously called casual work. It creates a flexible work force and enables businesses to grow an then take on permanent staff. All the polls show around 85% of workers on zero hours like it.
It offers flexibility to students, people with child care responsibilities and other caring duties. The bulk of those who are complaining seem to be previously unemployed before they got their zero hours job. Maybe some of them will never get full time work. Contrary to some political theorists, there is no right to a job.
grannyboy
- 18 Jun 2016 13:32
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They're an EU wide phenomenon except in Greece or Spain Etc, where
there are very few jobs for anyone, they're not real jobs they just help
the governments when its time to put out the jobless rate, anyone who
has a mortgage or wishes to get one couldn't, the same if you rent...
And to say that 85% are in these sort of con jobs and that they LIKE them
is deceiving at the highest level.
The only ones to benefit are Students or those that feel like working now and
then....
Haystack
- 18 Jun 2016 14:06
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Anyone who has a job now that does not require any special skills will mainly be automated out of work in the near future. As a result casual work will rise as will unemployment. Thirty years ago or more there was a fantasy put about that there would be a future of decreasing working hours with some people not having to work. There would be lots of things to do in the increasing leisure time. There was a major flaw in this vision. Who would pay for it all? The future is bleak regarding work. Many businesses rely on zero hours and would be marginally viable without it. The ability to employ staff when needed will increase.
The only solution for a given country such as the UK is business success and fuller employment. They produces an environment where workers are in demand and permanent jobs are on offer. The only source of money to spend on public services, roads etc is taxation on successful businesses.
grannyboy
- 18 Jun 2016 14:16
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If So then why are we allowing so many immigrants to not only come
to the UK, but Europe in general?
Its all a recipe for disaster..Or is your post a contradiction in facts?..
Haystack
- 18 Jun 2016 14:20
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The only solution is booming business and then we may need the immigrants. Personally, I would wait until we need them to let them in. However boom is followed by bust. Then we would have too many people here as we did in the last recession. That is why immigration became such a dominant topic.
Haystack
- 18 Jun 2016 21:30
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The problem is for the average person. They aren't going to sell anything except their time. There are too many people for everyone or even a large proportion to sell things.
MaxK
- 18 Jun 2016 23:20
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So, take away the time element, and what are people going to do for a crust?
this prototype is old hat, but you get the picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHNxkBCxHs
Here is an article which gives you an idea of where things are going:
http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8?IR=T
This is one outfit that plans to do away with humans:
http://momentummachines.com/
The future is bright!
VICTIM
- 19 Jun 2016 07:52
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And yet the people whose responsibility it is to forsee all this want to fill up Europe with millions of no hopers .
Fred1new
- 19 Jun 2016 11:19
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Vicky,
Do you suggest the trash can for the no-hopers?
VICTIM
- 20 Jun 2016 07:51
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Watched F1 in Baku Azerbaijan what a stunning place that is , looked immaculate . I can see that place doing well from tourism .
TANKER
- 20 Jun 2016 08:41
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vote out or lose your freedom and country
Cameron is a liar and as wrecked the country with all is lies
only interested in is families eu subs of 700k
TANKER
- 20 Jun 2016 08:43
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cox was anti british and the in campaign are using her murder as a weapon to scare voters to vote in
its a damn disgrace disgusting arseholes
TANKER
- 20 Jun 2016 09:09
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warsi the muslim mp who fiddled her taxes fiddled mp costs
she is no more than a thief and a bloody liar
a low life woman a croiminal
will10
- 20 Jun 2016 09:11
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Tanker
I disagree.
Jo Cox was an example of all that is best in the British.
TANKER
- 20 Jun 2016 09:11
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uk to become a muslim country within 15 years they are the only people breeding out of control to take over the world .