Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

There is lots of info about TTIP and how public bodies in all countries are exempt. There was an academic on this morning on BBC who specialises in studying trade agreements. He went through all the parts of it. This is left wing hysteria. All parts have vetoes at country level. There are parts of the NHS that were effectively privatised under the last Labour government. Those parts are up for bidding by any country in the EU at present. Some parts are already run by companies from France. There are quite a few hospitals that were built by private companies and are leased back by the health authorities. All done by Blair.

the problem with all politics, and specifically for now EU, is that claims that "we'll never accede power over......" uk courts, nhs, autonomy of parliament etc etc can always be changed further down the line, always "for the greater good of the country"

and again ...... turkey is 30 years from being accepted into EU ...... anyone offering odds on on that being within 10 years, because i reckon it's a good bet ..... even 5 may not be too far-fetched

Surely not cynic, Dave has told us not for decades.

Anti-EU party in power in Rome and Turin.
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I doubt that Turkey will join the EU in any of our lifetimes.

george - it is all politicians of all persusions since we signed the treaty of rome

just notice the change in hay and is posts .hay you are very dishonest person .
the facts on TTPT is out their to read but this gov will not make put it general circuit
like all their lies on the eu

can say this CAMERONS LIES ON CAPPING AND STOPPING BENEFITS TO MIGRANTS FOR 4 YEARS
IS GOING TO FAIL THE EU AS NOW SPOKEN ON THE ISSUE AND WILL VETO THE UK AND MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO STOP BENEFITS FOR MIGRANTS IN OR OUT OF WORK

NOW TELL ME I AM WRONG . I DO HAVE GOOD CONTACTS

that low life S KINNOCK using cox death to make gain what a low life scum bag he is
he is a Kinnock for sure a low life family of users why the welsh vote for the scum is beyond me and I am welsh .

but we know why he is shouting from the roof tops ,
the eu gravy train of is low life family
come on you welsh wake up to the users

H (71783) so why is the UK spending hundreds of millions of taxpayers money to make it happen?
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Cameron will soon be in is new job on the gravy train . he will step down next year

George you will get no answer from the liar hay he is death and dumb

I can see a civil war in the uk in the next 6 years the young will take to the streets that's for sure they will not be trodden down . I see it coming

when the vote is in then all the lies of the in campaign come out and the young can not get jobs no homes to buy or rent because of cost they will kick out big time and I would support their actions because action is the only answer in the end .
Cameron the liar will be in is new job milking the system . and you will find no mp who voted to stay in . they will all vanish into thin air .

because rest assure they have lied on all counts scare tactics

What a load of rubbish the REMAIN camp and their EU cohorts are spouting about how we will suffer if we vote LEAVE. We are not alone in wanting out of the EU, millions of Europeans want out as well and they will also demand referendums. To think that like minded Europeans will not trade with us in future is laughable.
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We are spending the money in relation to the deal where Turkey would take back immigrants. The offer in exchange is that Turks with special passports could travel visa fee to the Schengen area and NOT to the UK. Even that deal is only for tourism. They won't be allowed to work in the EU.

I think remain will win.

imo, they have scared enough older people (who really should know better) into going for remain, and the young are so thick they cant see anything else.

Hope not, but the game is loaded.

the uk is not in the SCHENGEN AREA

the uk is not in the SCHENGEN AREA . so why is the uk putting money in if it does not affect the uk you fool

after the 23rd the uk voters are going to wake up to the biggest CON of all time

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FALL OUT its going to be nasty for the young and the over 50 who will lose jobs to migrants and never work again a life of poverty is on the way for these people .

I will just smile when I pass them on the street and say you voted for poverty

The uk has allocated 1.8 billion pounds to help FAST TRACK the assession
of 5 countries including Turkey.