goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
jimmy b
- 27 Jun 2016 14:57
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Haystack , the leave campaign was fought with immigration as a top priority .
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:01
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But they have not won a GE. They are not and will not be the government. The money saved will not be spent on the NHS either. They were promises made by people who won't have the power to do anything. Farage was promising all sorts of things and he wasn't even an MP. Any money saved by Brexit will go into general coffers and the Chancellor will decide what it is spent on. With a mild recession on the cards there is no chance of extra money for anything. I voted out but didn't believe any promises. The promises were for the gullible.
jimmy b
- 27 Jun 2016 15:05
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If Boris ,Gove etc take over why would they not implement anything they said ,the country would be in uproar and if you didn't believe in any promises why the hell did you vote out ?
VICTIM
- 27 Jun 2016 15:15
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Boris in his speech said we must get the right people in this country , poss referring to hoards of former east europeans who descend on us . I think he knows whats wanted , whether it's got is another thing .
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:19
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I voted out because I don't like the EU and I see it as a failing institution that might bring us down with it. Boris didn't promise all the things that people expect, it was various others such as Farage. Boris even said during the campaign that he liked immigration. There is only around £10 billion net to be saved. There were promises to spend some of it on farming as well. In fact there were far too many promises for the amount of money available. People need to realise that both sides lied. During the campaign no one seemed to mind or at least looked the other way.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2016 15:20
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what about not paying out benefits to migrant after 3 months out of work these benefits must be stopped , and all in work benefits for migrants must stop coming to the uk to work for min wage will not pay taxes so it costs the uk biillions in inwork benefits it must now end
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:22
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Boris may not be the leader. There is a campaign among the Conservative MPs to block Boris. Theresa May looks quite likely. Boris has to be in the two chosen by Conservative MPs before those two are put to the Conservative members to choose from. Last time it was between David Davis and Cameron.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2016 15:23
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1. In-work benefits for the low paid are generous in the UK compared to other countries in the EU15 and may act as a much stronger pull factor towards Britain than to other member states. This paper finds that the UK is the fourth most generous country of the EU15[1] in its provision of benefits to low income workers after Denmark, Luxembourg and Ireland – with populations of 5.5 million, 500,000 and 4.5 million respectively. Furthermore, the UK is more generous than Finland and France and much more generous than Germany, Sweden the Netherlands and the rest of the EU14 in topping up low wages. When the costs of living are accounted for, low paid workers in the UK are the second richest in the EU15 after Luxembourg. Access to unemployment benefit, while paid at a lower rate than in many of the EU15 countries, is much easier to access in the UK where there are virtually no conditions of access, compared to more robust controls elsewhere.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:29
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Remain campaigners may sign up as Conservative members to vote against Boris. Theresa May was a remain supporter. If she is PM then expect a stitch up, that is if she leaves at all.
grannyboy
- 27 Jun 2016 15:29
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"myself and my friends voted out to cut migration. now they are saying
thats not going to happen"
That's why when they have the GE, people who voted to LEAVE should
vote UKIP, they might not win outright but they would have a good chance
of taking seats in many Labour areas, and could win some from the tory's,
like in Thanet South..
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2016 15:30
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Can EU migrants easily claim benefits when they arrive in another EU country?
No - there are conditions, depending on an individual's circumstances.
They can stay for three months, but to stay longer after that they have to be: in work; or actively seeking work with a genuine chance of being hired; or be able to show they have enough money not to be a burden on public services. Apart from that, evidence of benefit abuse or fraud is grounds to exclude or expel a person.
the uk is the only country that pays out of work benefits to out of work migrants out of work for over 3 months that is why they all want to risk all to get to the uk
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:30
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In the Guardian
Remain supporters suggested on social media that they may join up as Conservative members to stop Johnson and Gove taking over in the same way that Labour membership surged so that people could vote for Jeremy Corbyn.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2016 15:30
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Can EU migrants easily claim benefits when they arrive in another EU country?
No - there are conditions, depending on an individual's circumstances.
They can stay for three months, but to stay longer after that they have to be: in work; or actively seeking work with a genuine chance of being hired; or be able to show they have enough money not to be a burden on public services. Apart from that, evidence of benefit abuse or fraud is grounds to exclude or expel a person.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2016 15:32
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the man with no balls is about to speak a coward
MaxK
- 27 Jun 2016 15:32
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If you are looking for a reply from tory central office (MAM section) you had better be prepared for a long wait T.
grannyboy
- 27 Jun 2016 15:35
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Haystack (71922)
"Farage was promising all sorts of things and he wasn't even an MP"
Do please tell what Nigel Farage promised?
Because it was Nigel Farage that's said the 350 million was not correct,
and it was the Tory Brexiters that were saying it was.
Now put up these other promises that you say Nigel Farage made..
jimmy b
- 27 Jun 2016 15:35
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There will be no free movement of people when we exit the EU or the country will be in uproar ,there will be riots .
A lot of people were going to vote UKIP if LEAVE lost ,so imagine what will happen if they are stitched up when they won.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:37
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PM welcomes Labour's new MP: She should "keep her mobile on, she might be in shadow cabinet by the end of the day"
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2016 15:44
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-nigel-farage-nhs-350-million-pounds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html
Video evidence emerges of Nigel Farage pledging EU millions for NHS weeks before Brexit vote
The Ukip leader distanced himself from the pledge just hours after EU referendum results became known
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'
grannyboy
- 27 Jun 2016 15:48
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Nigel Farage has always stated that the NET was 34 million pounds a day..
And is that ALL you can come up with..