cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
HARRYCAT
- 24 Jan 2008 21:29
- 721 of 21973
You are getting our hopes up!!!
I think that I will take profits now, if & when, & then sit on cash for a while until I can figure out the safer stocks for a recession.
stroreysj
- 25 Jan 2008 01:52
- 722 of 21973
Rather than take profits set tight stop losses. the news flow seems to have turned, atleast in the short term. US housing inventories lower, US unemployment claims down, UK insolvencies lower, expected further interest rate cuts. I have no doubt there will be some bumps along the way but this rally might have a few legs left yet With many of the bears stopped out and needing to cover on wednesday, nothing as yet to make them return en masse. I like Cynic's optimistic, albeit cautious view. Heres to another fun day trading.
BigTed
- 25 Jan 2008 09:17
- 723 of 21973
well said...:)
cynic
- 25 Jan 2008 10:04
- 724 of 21973
had long FTSE overnight (placed at 21:05 last night) and took nice profit first thing this morning ..... on doing so, went short DOW as reckon that is looking overheated - currently nicely in the money.
if anyone thinks we are now off into the sunny uplands once more, then he is likley to be in for a nasty shock and a cold bath
halifax
- 25 Jan 2008 10:52
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Cynic DJfuture up 70+ is it still going to be a down friday?
maddoctor
- 25 Jan 2008 11:10
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not trying to douse the euphoria just pissed off with the rags and their rubbish headlines
If a single US family home is priced at the 2007 median of $217,000 -- a 1.8 percent decline from the 2006 median price(reported yesterday) -- the owner is $3,906 poorer than a year ago. $600 rebate ain't gonna cover that
halifax
- 25 Jan 2008 11:16
- 727 of 21973
Poorer only if they sell up. No different to holding shares where the market has fallen.
cynic
- 25 Jan 2008 11:26
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i went short when Dow was indicating +90 .... imo the markets have gone up too far too fast and would not be remotely surprised to see profit taking before the markets close for w/e
explosive
- 25 Jan 2008 11:38
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Cynic post 685, rebound back up I meant, sorry not very clear reading my post over again.... I also share the view that markets are on a spike at the moment, big falls followed by support and push back up. I share the view that this support will be eroded fairly quickly, like many have alsready said we should see profit taking very soon. There is also still the uncertainty factor playing. May have a dabble on the Nikkei or leave until next week to see what news the weekend papers bring.
halifax
- 25 Jan 2008 11:38
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Today you may well be right but a further interest rate cut by the fed next week might move things upwards especially if the so called "wall" of money comes back into the market.
cynic
- 25 Jan 2008 11:50
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a further interest cut in US may NOT be such a good thing and could easily scare the markets even more .... certainly it will put huge inflationary pressures on US a couple of years down the line
maddoctor
- 25 Jan 2008 11:56
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and i have still not worked out who will cover these give aways , who wants US paper?
niceonecyril
- 25 Jan 2008 12:56
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With it being election year,imo all neccessary steps will be taken to appease the markets.
cyril
2517GEORGE
- 25 Jan 2008 13:00
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I suppose in some ways it's beneficial to the US if the dollar weakens in as much as their deficit will be $Trillions of mickey mouse money.
2517
stroreysj
- 25 Jan 2008 14:49
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Not surprised for a moment that profit taking kicked in today with everyone taking a beating prior to the RELIEF RALLY (CNBC Speak). But professionals close markets so lets see were we are at at close of play as looking like the FTSE is going up again, or atleast not down. Nothing wrong with the market taking a little breather before it pushes on again. As the market has fallen so much prior to the the bounce, albeit a quick one, it is still in negative territory for 2008 in hard numbers.
As the eternal optimist i just do not see a recession only depressed US housing because of bad bets by multiple home owner speculators, a screwed up banking system underpinned by greed and misappropriated governemnet US overspending on war-mongering. Despite all of this the consumer and the job market is still holding up, interest rates are coming down and if all else fails there are always the soverign wealth funds.
Anyway ill get off my soapbox as even im getting bored with my post :-).. Thanks for listening
maddoctor
- 25 Jan 2008 15:19
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and just how will rushing out buying more chinese tat help the US economy
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Retail shares rose Friday, bolstered by hopes that an economic-stimulus proposal will put money back into U.S. consumers' pockets and send shoppers flocking to stores.
cynic
- 25 Jan 2008 15:41
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meanwhile Dow continues to slip away from this morning's euphoric indications (goody goody!) and SOLA resumes its downward path
maddoctor
- 25 Jan 2008 15:42
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well shorted but only for the brave or foolhardy :-)))
stroreysj
- 25 Jan 2008 15:44
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Redirecting $'s from over inflated miltary contracts to the domestic economy would be a good start.
its not before time the US economy gets hit hard as credit lines eventually get maxed out. Unfortunately the rest of the world is still hung up on it being the centre of the universe and we all have to suffer with a bad hangover because one of the members of the team drank too much. Im not convinced decoupling will happen anytime soon but sooner are later arab states as well as the chinese are going to sick of importing inflation and the problems that come with it because of the US's mistakes. The mkts will be an even more unpredictible place
My stocks are still going up so what do I care. Volitility breathes opportunity
jimmy b
- 25 Jan 2008 15:52
- 740 of 21973
I've been both brave and foolhardy this week :-) .. :-(