Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

You'l have to put up ALL these untruths that were , in your mind 'more'
untruths from the leave side, besides the 350 million pounds claim, which
even Nigel Farage said wasn't true...

I am putting up with them. I expected lies from both sides. Luckily the lies from the Leave side were better.

An ambassador is an honest gentleman sent to lie abroad for the good of his country.

That was said by Henry Wooton in 1604

I didn't mean 'put up' with them, i meant what were these lies you claim
that more was from the leave side?.

IE: as in the 350 million pound claim..

The real problem with the Leave campaign was that they treated it like a GE. They made promises that they couldn't and won't be able to fulfill. It was as though they felt they were putting forward a manifesto. No government is going to spend extra money on the NHS out of the EU budget no matter how much it is. The money saved will go into general coffers. The Leavers behaved as though they would be the government if they won.

It looks like May will be the next PM and although she will take us out of the EU, it is unlikely that immigration will change and money won't be spent on the NHS. Most likely, we will may go into a recession or at least a downturn so the money saved on the EU will come in handy. It may mean less spent on the NHS. Any benefits from leaving the EU in the shape of trade will be slow coming. I doubt that we will see much benefit in less than 10 years and it may be more than 15.

The Leave voters were gullible to think that the Leave campaigners were going to have the power to do anything.

On that basis Haystack.

you and your mates can look forward to being thrown out on your arse at the first opportunity.

Not a chance. Plenty of Leave voters are regretting it already and 48% voted against it. That's plenty of votes. It is looking increasingly that in a second referendum the Remain side would win easily.

The Leave will get some of what they want but not much.

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Due to Cameron’s stupid actions, the UK will have to accept decisions made in Brussels by the EU and its remaining members and will have had no ability to take part in their negotiation of new rules, regulations, and relationships.

You can hear the calculators already working out the price, which the UK is going to be pay.

It will be seen history, as the result of the referendum in an attempt to save his own political arse. The referendum was initiated by the PM and other leading members of a sordid, tawdry, egocentric tory party and other political riffraff.

I thoght there wasn't going to be a second referendum...Are you saying
May is telling lies already?...

As to "Plenty of Leave voters are regretting it already and 48% voted against
it. that's plenty of votes."

And that's why UKIP won't be going anywhere...Its not unexpected that
we're seeing some back peddling...

Don't worry there will be plenty of voters to give the ruling elites another
kick up the fricking arse.......

Fred we don't want to have anything to do with Brussels, other then LEAVING.

Let them get on with further integration, if thats what they want, but
its NOT for the UK.....

No. There will be no second referendum and May has said that as well.

Haystack says ,, it is unlikely that immigration will change ,,

If that happens firstly they will be out at the next election and contrary to what you think you will see a massive rise in UKIP votes especially in the North and down the East coast .

It won't be put across that way. Don't forget that we are unlikely to activate article 50 this year. So that is sometime in 2017. It takes a minimum of two years to exit and maybe a bit longer. There will be negotiations still ongoing up to and probably beyond 2020. By the next election nothing will be settled. That means the electorate will have to wait until 2025 to have their say on new deals. That gives the government another 5 years to persuade the country that thing are fine.

We will get the feeling quite soon if we are being betrayed . Free movement of people will or won't be stopped by the next election ,the Tories hands are tied like it or not .

Haystack we know you are blue through and through but life just isn't like that , things change you have the future laid out always this then that then this . If 10 or 20 or 30 Con MP's said to May we will vote for you if you give us a second referendom what is she to do , tell them to sod off or let down the leavers . Not hard is it .

Haystack are you George Osbourne ?

Doing that she may provoke a vote of no confidence and "may", if labour and Lib Dems and SNP "speak" to one another the balance might be interesting.


(Supposing that labour does get its act together.)

Interesting times.

There is not going to be a second referendum no matter what. It won't be clear whether there will be freedom of movement by next election.

The guy who is the biggest donor to UKIP wants anew a party but without Farage.

Interestingly the man who started UKIP has said that Farage only vaguely helped the referendum result. He describes UKIP now as a nasty little racist party.

Farage’s taking over of the party and its subsequent change in modus operandi was not an accident. If you were ever in any doubt about the route that Nigel Farage craved for UKIP, it is summed up in a conversation he had with Alan Sked in 1997. Sked recalled an incident in 1997 when Farage was arguing with him over the kind of candidate that UKIP should be selecting for a forthcoming election. Sked claims that –

“He wanted ex-National Front candidates to run and I said ‘I’m not sure about that,’ and he said ‘There’s no need to worry about the nigger vote. The nig-nogs will never vote for us’”

Somehow the freedom of movement got changed. In its original form it was freedom to move if you had a job. It was changed to freedom to look for a job. Maybe it could be changed back again.