Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Not a chance. Plenty of Leave voters are regretting it already and 48% voted against it. That's plenty of votes. It is looking increasingly that in a second referendum the Remain side would win easily.

The Leave will get some of what they want but not much.

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Due to Cameron’s stupid actions, the UK will have to accept decisions made in Brussels by the EU and its remaining members and will have had no ability to take part in their negotiation of new rules, regulations, and relationships.

You can hear the calculators already working out the price, which the UK is going to be pay.

It will be seen history, as the result of the referendum in an attempt to save his own political arse. The referendum was initiated by the PM and other leading members of a sordid, tawdry, egocentric tory party and other political riffraff.

I thoght there wasn't going to be a second referendum...Are you saying
May is telling lies already?...

As to "Plenty of Leave voters are regretting it already and 48% voted against
it. that's plenty of votes."

And that's why UKIP won't be going anywhere...Its not unexpected that
we're seeing some back peddling...

Don't worry there will be plenty of voters to give the ruling elites another
kick up the fricking arse.......

Fred we don't want to have anything to do with Brussels, other then LEAVING.

Let them get on with further integration, if thats what they want, but
its NOT for the UK.....

No. There will be no second referendum and May has said that as well.

Haystack says ,, it is unlikely that immigration will change ,,

If that happens firstly they will be out at the next election and contrary to what you think you will see a massive rise in UKIP votes especially in the North and down the East coast .

It won't be put across that way. Don't forget that we are unlikely to activate article 50 this year. So that is sometime in 2017. It takes a minimum of two years to exit and maybe a bit longer. There will be negotiations still ongoing up to and probably beyond 2020. By the next election nothing will be settled. That means the electorate will have to wait until 2025 to have their say on new deals. That gives the government another 5 years to persuade the country that thing are fine.

We will get the feeling quite soon if we are being betrayed . Free movement of people will or won't be stopped by the next election ,the Tories hands are tied like it or not .

Haystack we know you are blue through and through but life just isn't like that , things change you have the future laid out always this then that then this . If 10 or 20 or 30 Con MP's said to May we will vote for you if you give us a second referendom what is she to do , tell them to sod off or let down the leavers . Not hard is it .

Haystack are you George Osbourne ?

Doing that she may provoke a vote of no confidence and "may", if labour and Lib Dems and SNP "speak" to one another the balance might be interesting.


(Supposing that labour does get its act together.)

Interesting times.

There is not going to be a second referendum no matter what. It won't be clear whether there will be freedom of movement by next election.

The guy who is the biggest donor to UKIP wants anew a party but without Farage.

Interestingly the man who started UKIP has said that Farage only vaguely helped the referendum result. He describes UKIP now as a nasty little racist party.

Farage’s taking over of the party and its subsequent change in modus operandi was not an accident. If you were ever in any doubt about the route that Nigel Farage craved for UKIP, it is summed up in a conversation he had with Alan Sked in 1997. Sked recalled an incident in 1997 when Farage was arguing with him over the kind of candidate that UKIP should be selecting for a forthcoming election. Sked claims that –

“He wanted ex-National Front candidates to run and I said ‘I’m not sure about that,’ and he said ‘There’s no need to worry about the nigger vote. The nig-nogs will never vote for us’”

Somehow the freedom of movement got changed. In its original form it was freedom to move if you had a job. It was changed to freedom to look for a job. Maybe it could be changed back again.

72146 - i have just posted along those lines on the referendum thread

And kick those b. English pensioners out of Spain.

You know who I mean those bloody spongers, sitting in the sun drinking, falling over and using their casualty services when they hadn't paid into their health services.

cynic
Are you first, second or third generation import?
There was a report yesterday of a woman in Birmingham getting abuse because she was speaking Spanish on her mobile home.

indeed; unless the spanish nhs is going to be properly reimbursed from uk (i don't know the rules), why should they treat expats for zero?

my grandparents from both sides ended up in uk in the early years of 20th century (around 1910 i think) ....... no welfare state then you will remember :-)

They should be in the 1911 census. What area did they come to?