Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What are the chances now of actually leaving the EU or even stopping free movement?

for all the obvious reasons, it will not be possible to stop at least theoretical free movement for eu citizens if uk is to trade with that bloc
however, there should be a variety of variations that could be implemented that would do something to stem the flow - eg stuff related to benefits to name something easy
i also think that even eu now recognises that "open house" as it now stands is not acceptable to many member states

Besides the 350 million pound slip, i've yet to hear what the other falsehoods
that the 'remainer's' claim the LEAVE side used to lull the voting public into
voting LEAVE?.

It was stated on one of the political programs yesterday that the reason
the 'remain side' lost the referendum was because they couldn't find five
reason that put the EU in a good light...

Well besides being somewhat of a damp rag, Chris Grayling and several
other Tory's eurosceptics believes that May will honour the referendum results
and carry out the wishes of the majority of the UK electors, and invoke article
50, in short order..

Otherwise if she fails to, we shall see how much backbone the likes of Chris
Grayling has...

Well if she is to be anointed, let's get on with it. The country needs leadership and some certainty. Pity about Andrea but she know best how she feels. She also knows now what a bunch of rat bags she has as so-called colleagues. Many are the the type that had a fag at school to warm the lavatory seat for them.

TM has stated specifically that she will honour the referendum result

Yes the rat bags resemble those of the KKK and some Freemason clan..

But what the feck someone has to carry out the orders of the gangsters
from Brussels...

"TM has stated specifically that she will honour the referendum result"

Not according to Haystack (72390).

a reliable source ...... he does swing with the breeze somewhat :-)

What happens to the membership vote, are they telling them it's a done deal and they have no say?

would it be fair to make a boxing analogy?
one of the fighters, after say 4 rounds of an evenly contested bout, throws in the towel
to whom do the judges award the fight?

What has that got to do with it?

And appointed the judges?

i accept that the current outcome is not very satisfactory, but what else would you propose?

Andrea Leadsom, July 7th BBC Interview, clarifying quite a few things (this is well worth watching, IMHO, particularly her ideas on stimulating the economy of the UK and getting the message over, that the UK is now 'open for business'):



Today, 11th July, Andrea, having considered her position, believes the country is best served by a rapid decision on who is to be PM, but has only enjoyed the support of 86 of her colleagues, as against over 60% of the MPs who supported Theresa May. Accordingly, she decides to back down, offering Theresa her full support.

Lots of people are very sad about Andrea's new decision to back down, including me. I now hope she is given a very senior position in the cabinet so that her Brexit passions can be used and exercised to the full.

Her votes should go back in the bin and the contest continued, it's not as if it was scheduled for next week.

The PCP have effectively cut off the membership vote.

AL replaced by whom?
MG? ..... what a horrid thought, but still

There were 5 or 6 hopefuls, some with good initial followings, all brushed away by May and Leadsom.

Then Leadsom drops out...result = no vote by anyone.

It is OK.

It is just English democracy at its best.

Who needs the EU.

Long live independence.

COL.

In assessing whether the levels of support from the MPs who voted for Leadsom and May was sincere or not is a tadge irrelevant. We can say, that in the main, 'Yes, it was'.

Clearly, Theresa May enjoys the support of over 60% of the parliamentary Conservative party. Clearly too, such support was necessary to lead those MPs in parliament, irrespective of what the Conservative Party membership felt. Also, there are now only 150,000 of such members. Didn't there used to be around 230,000 or so and numbers have now rapidly dropped down?.

I would suppose we are not to know if 'Andrea did a deal with Theresa' for a cabinet job in return for backing out. We do know, that Andrea is a bit short of cabinet experience on her CV. If there is ever a second chance, and there welll might be, then Andrea could stand a much better chance next time.

Anyhow, having said that, I do hope Andrea does get a good job in Theresa's government cabinet. She might make an alternative Chancellor or even a 'Minister without Portfolio' with special responsibility to help take us out of the EU.