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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 14:11 - 72400 of 81564

i accept that the current outcome is not very satisfactory, but what else would you propose?

ExecLine - 11 Jul 2016 14:12 - 72401 of 81564

Andrea Leadsom, July 7th BBC Interview, clarifying quite a few things (this is well worth watching, IMHO, particularly her ideas on stimulating the economy of the UK and getting the message over, that the UK is now 'open for business'):



Today, 11th July, Andrea, having considered her position, believes the country is best served by a rapid decision on who is to be PM, but has only enjoyed the support of 86 of her colleagues, as against over 60% of the MPs who supported Theresa May. Accordingly, she decides to back down, offering Theresa her full support.

Lots of people are very sad about Andrea's new decision to back down, including me. I now hope she is given a very senior position in the cabinet so that her Brexit passions can be used and exercised to the full.

MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 14:17 - 72402 of 81564

Her votes should go back in the bin and the contest continued, it's not as if it was scheduled for next week.

MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 14:18 - 72403 of 81564

The PCP have effectively cut off the membership vote.

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 14:23 - 72404 of 81564

AL replaced by whom?
MG? ..... what a horrid thought, but still

MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 14:29 - 72405 of 81564

There were 5 or 6 hopefuls, some with good initial followings, all brushed away by May and Leadsom.

Then Leadsom drops out...result = no vote by anyone.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 14:34 - 72406 of 81564

It is OK.

It is just English democracy at its best.

Who needs the EU.

Long live independence.

COL.

ExecLine - 11 Jul 2016 14:57 - 72407 of 81564

In assessing whether the levels of support from the MPs who voted for Leadsom and May was sincere or not is a tadge irrelevant. We can say, that in the main, 'Yes, it was'.

Clearly, Theresa May enjoys the support of over 60% of the parliamentary Conservative party. Clearly too, such support was necessary to lead those MPs in parliament, irrespective of what the Conservative Party membership felt. Also, there are now only 150,000 of such members. Didn't there used to be around 230,000 or so and numbers have now rapidly dropped down?.

I would suppose we are not to know if 'Andrea did a deal with Theresa' for a cabinet job in return for backing out. We do know, that Andrea is a bit short of cabinet experience on her CV. If there is ever a second chance, and there welll might be, then Andrea could stand a much better chance next time.

Anyhow, having said that, I do hope Andrea does get a good job in Theresa's government cabinet. She might make an alternative Chancellor or even a 'Minister without Portfolio' with special responsibility to help take us out of the EU.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 14:59 - 72408 of 81564

Or possibly as a cleaner in the HP.

Hear there is a shortage.

grannyboy - 11 Jul 2016 15:08 - 72409 of 81564

The chairman of the 1922 committee said that was in the rules that May
could now be announced as leader, and would be in a matter of days.

So finding another candidate is not on the agenda, and putting it to the
membership is now not an option, so its left to the dirty tricks dept and
friends from the media that has decided...

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 15:16 - 72410 of 81564

for max, i'll repeat post 72406 ..... i should also add fred, but that's rather a waste of time

AL replaced by whom?
MG? ..... what a horrid thought, but still

MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 15:30 - 72411 of 81564

Shurely the tories could come up with a credible contender, theres over 300 of em.


But anyway, it looks like a coup d'état, and the members can go play with themselves.

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 15:39 - 72412 of 81564

that's unreasonable ...... there were 5 or 6 contenders and then 4 were eliminated by due process
AL, sadly in many ways, found she hadn't the stomach for the job, so that left just one in the ring

so would you now suggest pushing BJ or MG or some other into the ring?
that idea doesn't smell too good either and surely would be no more than a token gesture anyway

i hope TM is now formally adopted as "pm elect" with minimal delay so that she can set out her stall properly, and more importantly, form her cabinet, which i am sure will include some strong brexiteers

MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 15:51 - 72413 of 81564

Our friend posted this a few minutes ago across the road...seems to sum it up.



doodlebug4
11 Jul'16 - 15:28 - 4898 of 4899 1 0


The Conservative Plan A was for remain to win the referendum. When Plan A was messed up then Plan B was put in place to have May waiting in the wings to take over as PM. The trouble with that plan was Boris looked like a real threat - so he was 'removed' and Gove was set up as a sitting duck. Unfortunately plan Gove went tits up when Leadsom beat Gove into second place. Leadsom was beginning to pose a real threat to plan May, with support for her growing within the membership - so Project Smear replaced Project Fear and now Leadsom has now been 'removed'.

May is now on a mission to convince the leavers she really was in favour of Brexit all along. Her Cabinet choices will be an interesting selection - let's just see how many MPs who voted to leave are in there. Grayling as Chancellor?

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 16:06 - 72414 of 81564

flash from bbc news
TM to be declared PM within 48 hours

==============

i know DB; he was somewhat "lively" on here for a while, but may have got banished; i don't recollect
anyway, i do love the way he posts with certainty!

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 17:02 - 72415 of 81564

Is Cameron buggering off on Wednesday his last U-turn?

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 17:08 - 72416 of 81564

i'm sure you'll enjoy a change of character to assassinate

you probably can't find much to say about JC as he's never to be seen and is a limp lettuce when he is

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 18:17 - 72417 of 81564

Manuel,

I didn't even try to assassinate Cameron.

He was committing a long drawn out suicide.

As far as Corbyn being a lettuce is concerned, at least the flies don't congregate on him unlike some could name.

grannyboy - 11 Jul 2016 19:36 - 72418 of 81564

Well at least there should be a few weeks more of the Labour party falling
apart to keep us occupied, before we revert back to T.May attempting to do
a stitch up on Brexit..

The need for UKIP is more evident then ever...

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 20:14 - 72419 of 81564

you're right; JC just gets eaten up by little slugs and snails
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