goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 12 Jul 2016 16:21
- 72444 of 81564
you guys are sometimes very silly
even simple commercial contracts can take a year in the cooking and here we're talking about something that is very complex for all sorts of good reasons
what i do not know is what happens during the gestation period
do all current arrangements stay in place?
grannyboy
- 12 Jul 2016 16:36
- 72445 of 81564
It really tells you what a catastrophe and gross deception, in first of all
joining the Common Market and being lulled into the political entity that its
turned/turning into over the past 40 years, and now having to disentangle ourselves
from out of the EU.
But one of the reasons they're not triggering article 50 straight away, is to get
the lay of the land and discuss some of the terms on which to negotiate trade
deals..And most of the deals will just be on the terms they're at the mo, and will
be business as usual and carry on seamlessly.
The biggest fly in the ointment will be the free movement, but the UK has to stick
to its guns, and negotiate for only those who have the skills that the country needs.
TANKER
- 12 Jul 2016 16:38
- 72446 of 81564
sign the article next month and then if they put tariffs on our goods smack a 8% tariff on all eu goods .
they would soon be shouting for a deal
but we have now got a wimp as PM AND SHE IS A WEAK PERSON AND NOT HONEST FAR FROM IT . SHE IS GUTLESS
sign the article now its in the interest of the uk
if she does not sign it by end aug then the uk will go into recession
which is what she wants along with 71 tory mps to say we must have talks to stay in the eu
cynic
- 12 Jul 2016 16:51
- 72447 of 81564
free movement
this is a very touchy and delicate and difficult subject for all - except for the likes of MrT who thinks ..... no i'll rephrase that; he doesn't think, so no need to continue down that line
applicable skills criteria is relatively easy to implement for those outside eu
assuming we want and need to trade with eu (and vice versa), then any changes will need to be far more subtle for a many good reasons
it may be that a good face-saver for all will be related to the receipt of assorted benefits, whether it be housing or free health care or perhaps even a link to the level of benefits and similar obtainable in their "home" country
obviously, there also needs to be phasing perhaps related to the amount paid into the system or the length of time employed in this country
TANKER
- 13 Jul 2016 07:43
- 72448 of 81564
the eu is fcuked the uk should walk away if the eu thinks it can push their views on trade , we should just walk away and put tariffs on all eu goods they would soon come running for a deal treat them with contempt which is how they work
TANKER
- 13 Jul 2016 07:44
- 72449 of 81564
if TM IS THE BEST THE CON PARTY THEN THE PARTY IS NOT FOR ME . NO MORE MONEY FROM THIS FAMILY
Fred1new
- 13 Jul 2016 08:28
- 72450 of 81564
Haze,
Remember,
jimmy b
- 13 Jul 2016 08:32
- 72451 of 81564
Good bye Dave , couldn't negotiate his way out of his own jacket.
And Fred i don't know why your gloating the Labour party is in tatters .
VICTIM
- 13 Jul 2016 08:35
- 72452 of 81564
The sad thing is jimmy he thought he could sucker his way to a remain result , took us for fools .
jimmy b
- 13 Jul 2016 08:40
- 72454 of 81564
Hopefully Osbourne to go next VIC ..
Balerboy
- 13 Jul 2016 08:42
- 72455 of 81564
Hate to say it jimmyb but your right.
VICTIM
- 13 Jul 2016 08:45
- 72456 of 81564
She will have re shuffle soon i would think jimmy . What do you think of her .
cynic
- 13 Jul 2016 08:50
- 72458 of 81564
it's very easy to shout your head off when you have no responsibility
jimmy b
- 13 Jul 2016 08:59
- 72460 of 81564
I didn't want May but who else is there .
What do you mean by that cynic ? do you doubt Farage would relish the job of untangling us from the EU , you obviously just don't like him which is fair enough , i happen to think he has done a great job and i'll say it again without him we would never have had this vote.
VICTIM
- 13 Jul 2016 09:07
- 72461 of 81564
She's had i think two speeches and said each time we are leaving the EU we have a better future out so that's quite something , whether the remainers start to work on her in the coming months i don't know .
cynic
- 13 Jul 2016 09:40
- 72462 of 81564
i do not dislike farage at all ..... he's a very good and entertaining speaker and certainly has (simplistic) popular appeal ...... for better or worse, it is undoubtedly his influence that forced the tories to include the referendum in their election manifesto
however, even more so than the main (any) opposition party in parliament, it's very easy to shout the odds as it's effectively words without responsibility
as so many have found out, once you have the power (responsibility), you discover that the seemingly simple is not simple at all
farage will never be in the position to find that out
Haystack
- 13 Jul 2016 09:47
- 72463 of 81564
Agreed, Farage will never have any political office (fortunately).