mr mike
- 21 Jan 2004 13:49
Tanfield Group is the new company name of Comeleon. As I understand it, Comoleon was getting into trouble so TAN (paerent company?) took over. Since this has happened the share price has dropped by 0.25p each day for the last week or so (on average) and are now around the 3p mark with very little activity.
Does anyone know much about this company or previously held stock in Comeleon? There is virtually no info out there other than on the company website.
cheers
Mike
hlyeo98
- 27 Jun 2008 11:14
- 726 of 1076
Oshkosh Corp shares plunged 28.4% after mentioning it will make a LOSS in its third quarter.
skinny
- 27 Jun 2008 11:15
- 727 of 1076
There's more but here's a taste :-
Oshkosh Corporation Announces Downward Revisions to Estimates for Third Fiscal Quarter and Full Fiscal Year 2008 Results
Oshkosh Corporation (NYSE: OSK), a leading manufacturer of specialty vehicles and vehicle bodies, today announced that it expects a loss of approximately $1.22 to $1.32 per share for its third quarter of fiscal 2008 compared to the Companys prior earnings per share (EPS) estimate range of $1.40 to $1.50 of income for the quarter. The expected loss relates to a non-cash charge for the impairment of goodwill to be recorded in connection with the Company's European refuse collection vehicle manufacturer, the Geesink Norba Group (Geesink). The impact of the impairment charge on third fiscal quarter earnings is estimated to be approximately $175 million, or $2.32 per share. Projected third fiscal quarter results also reflect weaker performance expectations compared with previous estimates for, most notably, the Companys access equipment segment and, to a lesser extent, its fire & emergency and commercial segments.
Lower than expected sales in both North America and Europe driven by softness in non-residential construction and general economic weakness, and rising raw material and fuel costs, have caused us to reduce our outlook for the third quarter and full fiscal year 2008, said Robert G. Bohn, Oshkosh Corporation chairman and chief executive officer.
During the quarter, we also lowered our outlook for Geesink due to a slower and more difficult than expected return to profitability, coupled with expectations of a weaker European economy and higher raw materials costs. This revised outlook has caused us to believe that the value of Geesink no longer supports the goodwill recorded for this business, resulting in the impairment charge we are announcing today. There is no tax benefit associated with the Geesink impairment charge, and the charge is not expected to affect the Company's liquidity, cash flows from operating activities or compliance with debt covenants, nor is it expected to have any impact on future operations. The actual charge for the impairment of goodwill will be finalized during the upcoming third fiscal quarter close process.
The Company expects that fourth fiscal quarter EPS will be below prior years levels and will provide a new EPS estimate range for full fiscal year 2008 when it announces its third fiscal quarter results.
Juzzle
- 27 Jun 2008 12:18
- 728 of 1076
Tanfield yesterday posted its Annual Report brochure - and today it is available online at
http://www.tanfieldgroup.co.uk/downloads/AnnualReport2007.pdf
Well worth a look.
Fred1new
- 27 Jun 2008 14:00
- 729 of 1076
I am more than happy to hold.
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 14:11
- 730 of 1076
is cynic though? he's awfy quiet last 2 days
WOODIE
- 27 Jun 2008 14:27
- 731 of 1076
Tanfield tanks after rival's warning
Created: 27 June 2008 Written by: Graeme Davies
Shares in Tanfield look like they've fallen off the top of a ladder. The company, which makes powered access systems and electric vehicles, plunged 40 per cent today and prompted the company to advise it will be rushing out a trading statement next week.
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Tanfield has been heading south for some time, but the catalyst for the latest plunge has been a statement from New York-listed Oshkosh Corporation, which owns JLG, a US powered-access provider. The main reason for the Oshkosh alert was an impairment charge for an unrelated business, but it also cautioned that "softness in non-residential construction and general economic weakness, and rising raw material and fuel costs," have resulted in a lower sales outlook for JLG. (Read the full statement here)
Tanfield is exposed to these markets courtesy of Snorkel, a US company that it acquired around a year ago (see Tanfield makes US move). With hindsight, this deal is proving to be a millstone around its neck - it required extra fundraising to complete, it has soaked up working capital and worries about Tanfield's increased exposure to US construction have undermined the share price.
Tanfield was one of the darlings of Aim in 2007, turning in a stunning share price performance. But confidence has begun to unravel in recent months (see Has Tanfield run out of power?). Its shares have now shed almost three-quarters of their value in just six months.
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HighEnoughShort-sellers have really got their teeth into this one, and it's not hard to see why. Any exposure to US construction is bad news right now, and the ready availability of Tanfield stock makes it an easy target (it's one of Aim's more liquid stocks). It's possible that Monday's statement will be a profit warning, and it may include a write-down of the carrying value of Snorkel. Until the boil is lanced, high enough
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 15:04
- 732 of 1076
reckon this will be 20p soon
Dil
- 27 Jun 2008 15:29
- 734 of 1076
But it looks as though they were asked by the stock exchange to issue a statement today , usual stuff is "we know no reason for the fall etc etc" if all is well not "give us a couple of days to see how we can make things look a bit less bad than they are".
WOODIE
- 27 Jun 2008 15:41
- 735 of 1076
1 would still sell tanfield at 38p
I have posted on the Sharecrazy boards that this stock does not appeal. Today its shares are collpasing, off 26% at 38p as I write. But on balance Id still be a seller.
Supporters will say that a market cap of 141m is too low. An historic PE of 10. A discount to net assets. Maybe. But if one strips out intangibles and assumes a cash drain this stock is actually trading at a premium to NAV.
Cash is everything. Last year (cal 07) Tanfielded reported profits of 10m or so. But its operating cash outflow was 29m. Why? No-one has ever explianed this to me. Add in capex etc and ignoring acquisitions this company happily burned well over 30m last time. Year end net cash was 29m. Unless there has been a market improvement in cash generation then Tanfield may need to reaise additional equity. Those who backed the last funding at 150p last year (another winning issue from Lord Snooty and pals at St Helens) may not be quite so keen this time around.
Posted by Tom Winnifrith on Jun 27, 09:49 AM in Newsflow
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 15:54
- 736 of 1076
its 30p now.....its in meltdown!
if its 10p by monday or tuesday, i'll buy
hangon
- 27 Jun 2008 15:57
- 737 of 1076
FWIW the Mkt cap and Turnover appear out of step....so unless there are gold bars in the Store, it's overpriced big time, IMHO...perhaps this "green vehicle" nonsense has run its course.
If the slowdown continues, we shan't need any delivery vehicles.
This afternoon, trading @ 30p doesn't tempt me.
Personally, I think the US-company ann. is NOT Tanfield - but the RNS didn't make it clear (why not? Should be No1 question). However, it would be surprising if TAN sales weren't down, wouldn't it?
Why the fall? - TAN-holders wanted to take their profits, before it all fell over..
Strawbs
- 27 Jun 2008 16:07
- 738 of 1076
I think 10p is probably several months away. A lot will depend on company announcements of course. I've noticed generally that when prices fall dramatically they either hit a wall and bounce, or hit a wall and go sideways, ultimatley trending lower (and slower) over the following months and years though.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 16:08
- 739 of 1076
i cant believe cynic aint commenting on this.....and he'ds gone quiet on barc too
hlyeo98
- 27 Jun 2008 16:23
- 740 of 1076
This reminds me of Worthington Nicholls...which has gone bust now.
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 16:49
- 741 of 1076
i didnt even know that hyleo....its funny how one loses track of certain shares over time.
ah, that was one of goldfinger great tips! and in 2006 i think so hardly a long time ago. beware of gf tips.....many bomb from what i've seen
almoore
- 27 Jun 2008 16:51
- 742 of 1076
think worthington nicholls had a name change to manage support ord.
tipton11
- 27 Jun 2008 18:44
- 743 of 1076
scot I have noticed your many postings on a number [many] coys, and they have left me wondering whether in fact you own any shares at all ... any way I bought shares in Tan yesterday @ 28.75 despite all your many warnings, could that be contra investing? Also I very much look forward to a posting from you recomending something to buy.
tipton
scotinvestor
- 27 Jun 2008 18:50
- 744 of 1076
buy nothing.....cash is king now.
everything is doomed.....uk is heading for abyss.
we need new government and good leader 1st before anything else is going to improve
jkd
- 27 Jun 2008 23:02
- 745 of 1076
h98+ano
ive been beating this, my same drum, about risk awareness, money management,and averaging down,( buying against the trend) for quite some time.
enough time to have hopefully helped any that listened or heeded.
unless they have deep pockets usually, and most of us dont.
it isnt a question of being bullish or bearish, it doesnt matter, its simply being in control of risk.
' the best thing one can do with good advice is to pass it on,
for it is seldom of any use to oneself '
Oscar Wilde.
si
ok so cynic got this one wrong, so what?
have you never been wrong?
i got pfc wrong, cynic got it right.
and so it goes on, thats the nature of the market.
as long as we get more right righter than wrong wronger then we stay ahead.
but no one gets everything right.
thats why money management and risk management is so important.
please dont tell me i am posting after the event
best regards to you all
jkd