Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

because she looks to have a clear idea of direction and strength of character to take us along that route

Went to my eldest daughters graduation yesterday (she got a first in accountancy). Lovely day but about 10 degrees too hot. What fascinated me was the number of overseas students graduating , mainly Asians , must have been around 60% of the accountancy students and they have to pay around £20k per year for the course and most of their parents had flown over for the event !

Thinking about it my daughter was one of the overseas students cos we had to cross the Severn Bridge to get there :-)

May will win next GE with a huge majority

Haystack ,not if they have huge immigration come 2020 that's a fact .

tories may well win the next GE, but whether on merit or by default because the labour party is seen as a total disaster with hard-left corbyn at the helm
time and actuality will tell

Dil,

Congratulate your daughter.

You will have to ask her for help!

By 2020 you would think the Labour party would have sorted its self out ,we need a strong opposition , so i hope that's the case . If we are lied to (whatever Haystack thinks) they will not win a GE ,you will also get huge votes from various regions of the UK for UKIP .

Labour may have split by then and could call themselves New Labour , or something .

one day you'll admit to yourself that all politicians lie to a greater or lesser extent regardless of party
there is no question that parliament and the country deserve a credible opposition regardless of who is holding the reins
viewed dispassionately, corbyn is clearly not a man cut out to be a leader ..... his pathetic support of "remain" which was the clear wish of the labour party, says it all

The immigration will be the same as now. It will take years to control it. They have removed the specific targets as they are currently impossible. May will still win if immigration is the same as now.

I am a Dalek , I am a Dalek .

Theresa May does not need a GE or a party election. The Conservative government was elected by virtue of having more MPs elected. The public did not elect the PM. She is still bound by the same manifesto that the public voted for. She doesn't need a GE unless she plans major changes to the manifesto.

Haystack do you really think that the 17.5 million people would vote her in if immigration is at current levels ? do you remember the Major days and how it ended ? you seem to think the Tories are the b all and end all ,they are not .

We are talking 2020 not now .

I am expecting Corbyn to win and then to watch Labour tear itself apart subsequently. If Corbyn wins, the troops won't serve. Any attempts to deselect MPs won't have any effect until a GE. But it will make them split from official Labour. MPs do not have to trigger by-elections when the give up the ship, so they are safe until a GE.

Of course, if Corbyn loses then it will be more bloody with the party members and Momentum going crazy. They will attempt to deselect all those who were opposed to Corbyn. It is difficult to decide which version will be more entertaining.

We are not talking about the PCP, we are talking about the party rank and file membership.

Who exactly was consulted about TM's appointment?

seemingly the rules did not require it in a one horse race

so, rather than dealing with history (take lessons from fred on that), what is your view on the likelihood of TM making a strong fist of the job?

On the other hand MaxK who in all honesty is capable or wants to do it .

honesty linked to politics makes an interesting oxymoron :-)