Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Labour may have split by then and could call themselves New Labour , or something .

one day you'll admit to yourself that all politicians lie to a greater or lesser extent regardless of party
there is no question that parliament and the country deserve a credible opposition regardless of who is holding the reins
viewed dispassionately, corbyn is clearly not a man cut out to be a leader ..... his pathetic support of "remain" which was the clear wish of the labour party, says it all

The immigration will be the same as now. It will take years to control it. They have removed the specific targets as they are currently impossible. May will still win if immigration is the same as now.

I am a Dalek , I am a Dalek .

Theresa May does not need a GE or a party election. The Conservative government was elected by virtue of having more MPs elected. The public did not elect the PM. She is still bound by the same manifesto that the public voted for. She doesn't need a GE unless she plans major changes to the manifesto.

Haystack do you really think that the 17.5 million people would vote her in if immigration is at current levels ? do you remember the Major days and how it ended ? you seem to think the Tories are the b all and end all ,they are not .

We are talking 2020 not now .

I am expecting Corbyn to win and then to watch Labour tear itself apart subsequently. If Corbyn wins, the troops won't serve. Any attempts to deselect MPs won't have any effect until a GE. But it will make them split from official Labour. MPs do not have to trigger by-elections when the give up the ship, so they are safe until a GE.

Of course, if Corbyn loses then it will be more bloody with the party members and Momentum going crazy. They will attempt to deselect all those who were opposed to Corbyn. It is difficult to decide which version will be more entertaining.

We are not talking about the PCP, we are talking about the party rank and file membership.

Who exactly was consulted about TM's appointment?

seemingly the rules did not require it in a one horse race

so, rather than dealing with history (take lessons from fred on that), what is your view on the likelihood of TM making a strong fist of the job?

On the other hand MaxK who in all honesty is capable or wants to do it .

honesty linked to politics makes an interesting oxymoron :-)

Not sure c, but it frankly doesent look good.

Lets see what she brings back from the fuhrer.

a puff from ADVFN as below
Fine Wine investment has enjoyed a shot in the arm from the referendum vote.
Prices had already grown a very healthy 9% in the first 6 months of 2016, but have leapt up a further 5.5% in the short 4 weeks since the vote.


what a load of bollocks as anyone who buys fine wines will tell you

there is indeed a lot of money to be made by investing in the very best bordeaux (no more than a dozen of those + even fewer burgundies) and in the very best vintages, but there is quite a lot of luck involved in choosing the best vintages, as it is not usually apparent until a few years after release

You may be struck off your doctor's list if you don't visit within 5 years. This happened to me since I rarely visited my doctor. I had to reregister. Now they have set up a complicated procedure of writing to patients after 5 years, with red letters etc.
This is to avoid paying doctors the 136 pounds per year for ghost patients. Given the long waiting periods for doctor appointments, it would be a better idea to pay the annual fee for the actual patients that were seen each year. Maybe less people will be then referred to the hospital out-patients.

That would depend on reviewal parameters.

? The same fee for a patient reviewed at monthly or weekly etc..

Does that £136 take into consideration of peripheral staff and buildings into consideration?

Seems a hell of a lot!

YouGov poll figures

Con 40
Lab 29
UKIP 12
LD 9

Labour still want an election. Conservatives on 40% translates into 200+ majority

I hadn't been to my doctor for 4 years , but a month ago I received a letter from my Medical Centre for a 5 yearly check up which I went to obviously . They said they would contact me in 5 years time for another check up . Wonder if it's to keep me on register after what Iturama said .

media spin or fair comment?

May's first PMQs and she wipes the floor with Corbyn