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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


AdieH - 29 Sep 2004 20:41 - 73 of 27111

10.30 am on Friday to be precise.

bosley - 30 Sep 2004 11:54 - 74 of 27111

i will be happy when this dark cloud has shifted from seo . does seem to be holding it back

AdieH - 30 Sep 2004 12:33 - 75 of 27111

Both companies will do well once this court case out of the way, so many other potential profit streams for both, whoever loses will be affected on the day but should soon recover, see it as a buying opportunity. DYOR, I hold BPRG but may hold SEO after announcement...

ptholden - 30 Sep 2004 13:18 - 76 of 27111

AdieH

Have the same kind of thoughts as yourself, SEO looks a good buy. Am I right in thinking that the Court Case will probably favour BPRG? Will do SEO more harm than BPRG but probably only in the short term. All will be revealed tomorrow!

PTH

hlyeo98 - 30 Sep 2004 20:25 - 77 of 27111

SEO will have more contracts coming in

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 11:09 - 78 of 27111

here it is finally put to bed.

BioProgress Plc

('BioProgress' or the 'Company')

High Court victory for BioProgress in Patent Entitlement case


In a 100 per cent victory in a dispute with Stanelco Fibre Optics Limited,
BioProgress Technology Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of BioProgress plc
(LSE: AIM: BPRG), has been awarded outright ownership of the master patent that
gives it exclusive worldwide rights to the process of making capsules from non-
gelatin materials by means of radio frequency ('RF').


This master patent controls the group of patents that were the subject of this
case and no commercial exploitation of the patented technology is permissible
without the consent of BioProgress.


The Court also found that discussions between BioProgress and Stanelco in the
summer of 1998 were subject to confidentiality. The Judge held that because
Stanelco had misused information given to them in confidence by BioProgress,
Stanelco had breached an obligation of confidence owed, by founding their own
family of patents and patent applications to the technology based on
BioProgress' core inventive concept.


There will now be a further hearing to determine the mechanism of transfer of
ownership of the main patent to BioProgress, together with all other patents and
patent applications worldwide which are derived from the original main patent
filing. In addition, the Court will be asked to assess the damages to be
awarded to BioProgress for Stanelco's misuse of BioProgress' confidential
information.


Graham Hind, CEO of BioProgress, said: 'This judgement validates the position we
have taken during the proceedings. The technology will strengthen significantly
our position in the global encapsulation market and adds significant revenue
earning potential to our SWALLOTM. liquid capsule technologies.


'By combining the intellectual property in this patent with our existing
technologies, BioProgress will now be able to deliver an even more
cost-effective, product enhancing, animal free solution to the encapsulation of
liquids which is a truly large global market.'


- Ends -

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 11:11 - 79 of 27111

at least now its over . i will be buying more at these prices because they wont be down here for too long . i would imagine seo will be making positive announcements soon to counter this . either that or they will let it all settle for a while . either way i can only see positives from now on . anybody got any other opinions?

bhunt1910 - 01 Oct 2004 11:14 - 80 of 27111

Can someone please explain what impact this court case could have on SEO - Does the ruling impact the packaging side of things??? - Thanks

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 11:20 - 81 of 27111

no its only the medical side , as far as i can see.

"In a 100 per cent victory in a dispute with Stanelco Fibre Optics Limited,
BioProgress Technology Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of BioProgress plc
(LSE: AIM: BPRG), has been awarded outright ownership of the master patent that
gives it exclusive worldwide rights to the process of making capsules from non-
gelatin materials by means of radio frequency ('RF')."

my reading is that "capsules" are tablets , not packaging.

ptholden - 01 Oct 2004 11:22 - 82 of 27111

Bosley,

From what I have read, SEO have moved onto other things so largely the verdict is perhaps irrelevant in the longer term. In the short term the SP is getting / going to get hammered, picking the bottom will have good rewards IMHO. Unfortunatley this will still hang around for a while as the matter of compensation is still to be settled.

All IMHO of course.

regards

PTH

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 12:11 - 83 of 27111

i dont think compensation will be too much apart from costs as i dont think seo were making any money from capsule technology. thinking about it , they could still use the technology but pay bprg a license fee.

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 12:31 - 84 of 27111

nice to be right. not as bad as we all thought . so happy i jumped back , and also jumped in today. here is seo,s response.

Stanelco plc

High Court rules Stanelco entitled to 2 patent families


Stanelco Fibre Optics Limited ('SFOL'), a subsidiary of Stanelco plc, and
BioProgress Technology Limited ('BioProgress') had a brief period of interaction
during 1998. Five years after the interaction ended BioProgress sent SFOL a
letter before action claiming that it was entitled to three families of patents
owned by SFOL relating to the formation of capsules and also that SFOL had
breached confidence. During October 2003 SFOL initiated High Court proceedings
against BioProgress and the case was heard in the High Court in July of this
year.


The outcome of the litigation has been that SFOL has succeeded in confirming
that it is solely entitled to two of the three patent families (including SFOL's
patent family for making capsules using a rotary die process which is the most
commercially significant application for capsule manufacture) and jointly
entitled to two of the claims of the other patent family. The remaining claims
of this patent family have been found to belong to BioProgress. The Court has
also found in BioProgress' favour in relation to part of its claim for breach of
confidence by virtue of SFOL's use of certain information as the basis for its
patent applications.


Commenting on the court's decision, Stanelco Chief Executive Ian Balchin said
'We are obviously pleased to have won outright on our entitlement to two of the
three patents families. We disagree with the court's reasoning in relation to
the remaining issues. However, we believe that we have good prospects of
appealing the court's decision and this is the course we will be following.
Stanelco's business has continued to develop since the action was brought, with
a number of new applications for our RF technology - which do not rely upon
these patents. These include food tray lidding, which now represents a very
significant part of Stanelco's future projected revenues.'



A full copy of the Judgment will be available in due course from the Court's
website at
http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/judgments/judg_home.htm


AdieH - 01 Oct 2004 13:50 - 85 of 27111

Wouldn't believe all you read just yet...

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 14:16 - 86 of 27111

i agree. maybe bprgs victory isnt all it seems adie

AdieH - 01 Oct 2004 15:58 - 87 of 27111

Lol, I mean the other way CEO of SEO is making sweeping statement, the master patent has been awarded to BPRG not SEO so any associated patents would be under the control of BPRG not SEO. We will have to wait and see I am a holder of BPRG but considering jumping into SEO also, will wait and see first.

willfagg - 01 Oct 2004 16:45 - 88 of 27111

Until we know the impact of the damages its difficult to know what to do. I woulod think SEO would want to move this to a rapid conclusion. I baled out yesterday but will be back in when I know the extent of the damage

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 18:01 - 89 of 27111

to be honest adie , i'm not arsed. as far as i am concerned this isnt what seo is about . the packageing side is what got me interested . anything else is a bonus. it looks like this side of seo is safe .and that is good news to me.

AdieH - 01 Oct 2004 18:05 - 90 of 27111

Fair do I may join once the full details have been released regarding compensation etc etc, Good luck to all holders anyway.

bosley - 01 Oct 2004 18:28 - 91 of 27111

cheers adie. dont leave it too late

sheny24 - 01 Oct 2004 19:24 - 92 of 27111

I certainly would consider an investment in SEO a very risky proposition, the management in my opinion are to say the least totally incompetent and should resign after this debacle . I most certainly would not risk one penny of my money in this company until the management or at least the CEO decide to do just that.
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