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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 20 Aug 2017 19:50 - 7347 of 12628

Lol what a load of tosh especially the £208 million funding for N I which costs us more by being in the EU than if we just pull out and fund it ourselves.

We won't be in the customs union or single market and will be lucky to get any kind of deal in the first instance with the idiots running the EU so they can go stuff their ECJ where the sun don't shine.

Fred1new - 21 Aug 2017 08:30 - 7348 of 12628

Ready to protect England from invasion by immigrants after Brexit?

MaxK - 21 Aug 2017 13:59 - 7349 of 12628



Why only a hard Brexit will do

By Kent Matthews

21 August 2017



https://capx.co/why-only-a-hard-brexit-will-do/

Claret Dragon - 21 Aug 2017 15:08 - 7350 of 12628

The Gravy Train pulls in and stops if hard brexit is implemented. No wonder the usual suspects are screaming.

Dil - 22 Aug 2017 08:34 - 7351 of 12628

Good article Max.

Guy who wrote it gave an interview Friday on BBC Wales news and talked a lot of sense.

Also heard that only 20% by value of our trade with the EU is actual goods with the rest being service related so hardly the end of the world if we leave the customs union as well as the single market.

Stan - 22 Aug 2017 09:03 - 7352 of 12628

Right Dil here's your chance to help us understand some of the waffle in Max's link, I have given you just three... off you go.


1) A hard Brexit will reduce poverty and inequality


Go on then explain in a few sentences in "your" view how exactly.


2) A Soft Brexit or an EEA option would be the worst of all worlds


Go on then explain in a few sentences in "your" own view how exactly.


3) Brexit "should" bring a boost of £40 a week to every household


Go on then explain in a few sentences in "your" view how exactly.

Fred1new - 22 Aug 2017 09:36 - 7353 of 12628

Stan,

Don't worry we have a competent government and a leader many would swap for Trump.


jimmy b - 22 Aug 2017 09:43 - 7354 of 12628

Why would Dil have to spell it out to you Stan ? you and Fred never answer a question .
My advice to you is read it again and try to work it out for yourselves ,that's if you can .

Stan - 22 Aug 2017 09:44 - 7355 of 12628

How silly of me Fred to forget that...I feel really reassured now though knowing that -):

Stan - 22 Aug 2017 09:45 - 7356 of 12628

Who rang your bell JJ........get back in your box.

hilary - 22 Aug 2017 09:58 - 7357 of 12628

Dilbert,

13% of UK GDP comes from the financial services sector, and the UK is a net exporter of financial services to the EU. Most importantly, London clears all euro transactions which account for around 40% of all FX trade.

Aren't you worried that the EU might try to take control of that to, say, Frankfurt?

And yes, you're right, the UK are a net importer of actual goods. So, a hard Brexit and an application of WTO rules will mean more expensive Mercs, Beemers, Porsches and Audis for the Brits.

Is that what you voted for?

iturama - 22 Aug 2017 10:09 - 7358 of 12628

There was nothing wrong with the EEC but it warped into the EU which is a multiheaded monster. If German cars being more expensive is a price to pay for getting out of the EU, so be it. I don't buy them anyway. I prefer my Lexus. The new Volvos are a good alternative.

Stan - 22 Aug 2017 10:13 - 7359 of 12628

I haven't got all day so come on Dil get back on this board answer my questions.

iturama - 22 Aug 2017 10:17 - 7360 of 12628

Are you still on the bridge Stan? Better get under it, looks like rain..

Stan - 22 Aug 2017 10:52 - 7361 of 12628

OK Dil out for a bit so some time for you to "consider your position'...Behave yourself IT.

hilary - 22 Aug 2017 11:12 - 7362 of 12628

iturama,

Aren't Volvos made in Sweden which, last time I looked, was still in the EU?

So a hard Brexit would make them more expensive too. :o)

MaxK - 22 Aug 2017 12:12 - 7363 of 12628

Hard brexit will make all continental cars more expensive...good good, buy British or American, Chinese, Japanese, the list goes on.

jimmy b - 22 Aug 2017 12:23 - 7364 of 12628

Years ago the likes of Kia / Hyundai etc were a joke but not now , these cars have superb build quality ,if the EU want to punish us i am quite happy to not buy a German car which i have for at least the last 20 years .

cynic - 22 Aug 2017 12:34 - 7365 of 12628

buy british ...... buy a bentley :-)

jimmy b - 22 Aug 2017 12:43 - 7366 of 12628

Too chavy for me now days .
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