Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

The cartoon boy.you are out of your depth in an inch of bathwaterI dont think that post was discussedbest you could come up with is:- Gausie - 13 Jan 2009 13:31 - 212 of 733
Ta COUNT!!

Lovely rhetoric.
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To which it was countered with I just love the way you never tackle anything head on and just continually spout loads of generality.
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Hes right there you do spout!... I dont profess to be able to pen the quality of The Counts postbut neither can you Truth is you dont give a fu*k about anyone or anything.you continue to take money off your mummy to make up for bad investments

Kayak, Had a look at the website suggested.

I hope that those who access the page will read the whole article.

When I was very young, I found it very strange that the Christian god was omnipotent, the Moslem god was omnipotent, the Jewish god is omnipotent and the Hindus also seem to have their omnipotent god.

I came to the conclusion that, all these different omnipotent gods must be the same GOD, as they were bound to be equal and only one god could be omnipotent.

This didnt seem to wash very well with some people I knew.

A little later, I considered a little about the messages, which these different groups were getting from their own particular god.

The basic messages seem similar, but the interpretations by the messengers seem to be different for each group. Each, thinking themselves special and usually valuing themselves, their own religion and own culture, more than the same entities of other groups.
Also, when they interpreted the other gods messages, the interpretations seemed more extreme and hostile. (Perhaps, engendering hatred, which they could direct usefully for themselves.)

Being young I thought this strange, until I realised that the messengers seemed to benefit from their own particular interpretations of the Words of Gods.

With a little bit of fear and rewards put into the teachings, they could gain followers and supporters and by maintaining their privileged position, of interpreting their Gods words, maintain their own advantageous positions.

When I think of the Middle East , I remember my confusion at the time.

It is not the ethnicity, which seems to me to be the problem, but those who try to maintain power by abusing it.

Where's Fred gone, that last post can't be him, it made sense :)

Raw, You are beginning to worry me.

Fred, your hillarious you, how can you urge people to read the whole article,
the whole truth doesnt matter to you does it? i got the impression you were only interested in debating the issues that went along with your own thoughts?and anything else was simply shoved aside with one of your infamous quotes of "you wouldnt understand"

And who are you trying to kid, you remember when you were young, ffs youve not got a hope in hell of remebering that far back,
What do you think about people like me who dont believe in any god,have my parents done me a dis service by not encouraging me to believe in something that no one can prove exists,or has ever existed ?have you got any factual proof Fred, that any god exists, or are you just going off what youve been taught to believe,

Tobasco, thats a bit of a wild accusation, but even if it was accurate,how does that make him uncaring,?what would be wrong with a mother helping her children out,?isnt that what loving mothers do, help as best they can?love cherish and look out for their sons/daughters best interest,?
Or would you prefer she was like an Hamas mother and teach him how to make a suicide bombers vest and how to hate and kill and blow up innocent people in the perverse brainwashing mentallity that it would lead him to a better place ?

I dont know if your a male or a female, but maybe you and Fred should become email buddies, seems like you have a lot in common,

Ruth .... i do hope you are not (almost) implying that Hamas mothers are (almost) sub-human

Ruthhistory tells me it aint as straightforward as you make outI am on the side of innocent civilians as for the cartoon boy he is not the nicest man in the WorldIMHO.. BTW Ruth Im male and Im hot just like it says on the bottle!!

Exactly, Ruth.
Someone's relationship with their mother is totally irrelevant to this thread.
And personal.
And no-one else's business unless the person himself wishes to make it so.
If the statement is true, then either Gausie said it publicly or privately.
If the former, then I'm sure he's proud to have such a loving and supporting mother.
If the latter, then it would be a breach of confidence.
Either way, to bring it up as some form of "slur" is just not right.
If any of our children were in trouble, we'd move heaven and earth to help them.
If my wife or I were in trouble, our three children would do the same.
That's what a loving family does.
We care for one another.
If the statement is true, well done Gausie and mum.
Richard

Mr C

It's a statement tabby rolls out time and time again. Not an ounce of truth to it. He also thinks I'm Bones and thinks Big Al works on a bouncy castle.

All products of a deranged mind.
G

Well done, Gausie and mum anyway :)

funny thing but i have always reckoned tabasco to be totally over-rated

MrCharts for any normal person I would agree with all your points 100%my family is my lifeas he has started trouble with myself and many other good people I can only tell you he deserves all he getsand he will get all he deserves!please read the MDX thread and make your own mind up
Cynic try tomato sauce.might be more to your taste?

Cynic, im stating any mother or father who teaches their own offspring to hate and kill other innocent human beings is 100% sub human,
its sick beyone belief,

Richard, yes couldnt agree more,

Tobasco, ive Met Gausie several times, and while we may not agree on everything,
ive always found him to be a decent fella, speaks his mind, but always polite and friendly with it.
Also met his son the year before last at the xmas do, and hes a credit to his family,which to me confirms one thing, hes been brought up by decent loving caring parents.

So think your out of order for trying to stir up personal shit, if you have any personal issues with Gausie, leave them off the thread hey and sort out like a proper man would off thread , its not clever and its not very alpha male to hide behind an internet connection to wave your handbag about and spout off personal stuff and threats.

Ruth - thanks for the post - but I have no probs with Tabby.

He has no real views on Gaza, he's on the thread merely to argue with anything that Dil and I have to say. He's trying to come to terms with having lost his entire life savings on a very silly single trade - and this is how he's dealing with it. Would be sad if he showed an ounce of humility. But his smug bravado, condescension, and all out aggression to other posters in the face of such adversity makes him fair game.

Watching him self-destruct is truly fascinating.

Ruth I am a proper man trust me on that one if that is true about Gausie it most definitely shocks mehe has said some awful things about myself and others on the mdx thread and I will not stand for itit is not clever to gloat over people that have lost their savingssome have lost their housestheir wives and familyvery grimand I dont like a person that can show joy at thathe is not alonemost of the traders laugh away.
I hedged a lot of my investment and came out in tactbut many friends did notI feel pain for them as wellif Gausie is a good family manI praise him for thatchildren are a good guidebut his heart wants an MOTI wont attack him anymoreI even thought he was gayI am a man that sticks by his word! That is the end of it Gausie..

Ruth ... plenty of sub-human irish then? ..... or if they do not blow themselves up, but only the opposition it's ok then?

and to follow that line of (il)logic, if said child is brought up just to kneecap or perform some other act of thuggery on the opposition, then it is clearly a sign of a loving and caring and moral upbringing? ...... after all, (s)he was not brainwashed to actually kill anyone!

Gausie ;-) you know me, i like men to act like men and be proper alpha males, theres nothing worse than a bloke acting like a woman, finger pointing and making idle personal threats from behind the safety of an annonymous internet connection,

well i don't hide - lol!

Hey tabby - and what if I were gay? what difference would it make, darling? Would that make me sub-human?

Cynic - you hide behind a pseudonym. Nothing wrong with that - but some of us don't.