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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

2517GEORGE - 30 Sep 2016 09:51 - 73597 of 81564

Bring back the prefab.
2517

cynic - 30 Sep 2016 10:13 - 73598 of 81564

exactly so .... these are today's equivalent

iturama - 30 Sep 2016 10:32 - 73599 of 81564

I have used containers a lot as temporary quarters, offices, canteens etc on project sites. All right for migrant camps but they are not a long term solution for housing. Personally, I would prefer a frame built house as is the norm in much of the US and Scandinavia. The designs possibilities are endless and they should be cheap, if it were not for rip-off Britain.

Claret Dragon - 30 Sep 2016 10:34 - 73600 of 81564

Too many in UK chasing the same pound coin. Population needs reducing. Quality of life is being eroded in all areas.

Just my thoughts as I see London grind to halt.

ExecLine - 30 Sep 2016 10:37 - 73601 of 81564

OMG! OMG! I do watch some crap!

Anyhow, if you like leggy Brazilian models and gorillas called "Walter", here's the latest:


Haystack - 30 Sep 2016 14:48 - 73602 of 81564

Container accommodation works very well

http://www.containercity.com

It is used as offices and there are people living there permanently.

iturama - 30 Sep 2016 15:42 - 73603 of 81564

I won't try to persuade people who have never been in a container, let alone tried to modify one for permanent accommodation. Others have already written on the subject.

http://markasaurus.com/2015/09/01/whats-wrong-with-shipping-container-housing-everything/

cynic - 30 Sep 2016 18:29 - 73604 of 81564

trust me - it works very well!

there are several companies that convert containers to offices and accommodation to a high standard, but it's certainly not something your average joe should try
these are used all over the world including inhospitable places like m/e oilfields

everyone forgets that the original prefabs were only meant to last about 10 years, but a few are still around even now ...... in comparison, a steel container has a life of at least 10 years and, if memory serves me right, there are many still travelling the oceans at 20+ years

MaxK - 30 Sep 2016 20:20 - 73605 of 81564

I'm with iturama on this, people without the faintest idea of the problems are the only ones who will go for tin sheds as accommodation.

This is a not so novel idea, and it might even work, as long as you ignore the infrastructure requirements: But at the end of the day, they are only well insulated boxes.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812816/Big-World-Home-s-flat-pack-house-IKEA-steroids-answer-Australian-housing-crisis.html

cynic - 30 Sep 2016 21:15 - 73606 of 81564

so is a house!

all the infrastructure problems are a virtual irrelevance for they apply whatever the houses are made from

Q - do we need a lot more affordable housing?
A - assuredly so

Q - do you have any experience of offices and more made from containers?
A - you to answer

Q - as above but specifically to cynic?
A - yes

MaxK - 30 Sep 2016 21:35 - 73607 of 81564

c, I think you have bin at the lolly water.

Clue: Don't confuse portacabin type accommodation with steel container boxes.


As for built in the factory "houses"..yes, I would live in one, especially if it was to the standard of the type I stayed in in Florida.

iturama - 30 Sep 2016 21:41 - 73608 of 81564

You're getting excited again C. As a Chartered Engineer and a Fellow of my Institute for more years than I care to remember, I am with Maxk on this. And yes, as I mentioned earlier I have used and lived in containers on project sites. Containers have their applications but there are more practical solutions as far as homes are concerned. IMO.

cynic - 30 Sep 2016 21:41 - 73609 of 81564

sorry old bean, but i very much know the difference between portacabins and accommodation of all kinds built from dry freight containers .... and have experience of both

cynic - 30 Sep 2016 21:43 - 73610 of 81564

ok IT, so now expound and expand on your "more practical solutions" that are both quick and cheap to construct

MaxK - 01 Oct 2016 00:01 - 73611 of 81564

Post WW11 type prefabs using modern materials.

Can be factory fabricated, good insulation/ventilation build in, electrics and plumbing can be pre- installed too...all ready to be bolted together onto a prepared pad.



Now for the awkward bit: where do you put them?

Chris Carson - 01 Oct 2016 01:03 - 73612 of 81564

Wales

cynic - 01 Oct 2016 08:02 - 73613 of 81564

just a small correction - containers are welded not bolted together and (of course) are fitted out to be easily lifted with a forklift

i don't thing the space is so much of a problem insofar as there are (surely) plenty of suitable brownfield sites, and even if only relatively temporary, the building companies and others have large land banks, much with at least outline planning permission

Dil - 01 Oct 2016 09:48 - 73614 of 81564

Well you couldn't put them in Liverpool Chris they'd all be stolen before anyone moved in.

Dil - 01 Oct 2016 09:50 - 73615 of 81564

But they would blend in nicely with all the cars with no wheels :-)

Chris Carson - 01 Oct 2016 09:58 - 73616 of 81564

:0)
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