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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

><a href=5 Year HUI Index Chart - AMEX Gold Bugs Index Performance" alt="" /> ><a href=1 Year Gold to Silver Price Ratio Chart - Gold Silver Ratio Graph" alt="" />

gazkaz - 27 Aug 2013 13:36 - 736 of 1034

Interesting chart Graph 8
(About 2/3rds down the document - sorry no page No's and can't copy it)

http://www.occ.gov/topics/capital-markets/financial-markets/trading/derivatives/dq113.pdf

An interesting possible phenomenon sticks out...
- since the 2008 global meltdown .....in the 1st graph (specifically labelled) - gold derivatives....... have increased
- about.... 40%
(presumably they were put on in order to control gold price)

The second graph described obscurely described as "precious metals". ....& I presume predominantly .......Silver,
- derviatives have increased
- 300%
(presumably put on and sustantially increased ....in order to control the silver price !)

- "IF so" - then ... Silver derivatives are EXPLODING IN VOLUME!
- if not - (ie not "predominantly silver")
- then silver ..& other.. precious metals ......are EXPLODING IN VOLUME!

Again - silver is possibly....THE achilles heel

gazkaz - 27 Aug 2013 15:29 - 737 of 1034

John Embry - re the big-guns of the BIS itself being rolled out into play.

- “Gold had a wonderful day on Friday and was challenging $1,400.
- In any normal market, based on everything that has transpired up to this point,
- gold would have blasted through $1,400 today and been off to the races.
- But the reality is
- that ..the BIS... intervened - and capped the price.
This doesn’t surprise me because I think the BIS has been involved in a lot of the strange movements in the gold price over the past year.

But this is just delaying the inevitable.


“As you know the BIS is the ‘central bank of central banks.’
- The BIS...... has a massive gold trading operation
- and I’ve always believed they were very active in the gold market,
- but this is just one of those times where I’m sure they were greatly concerned about the tremendous upside action in gold, and so
- they moved to halt the advance.

But the attempt by the BIS to maintain the viability of the fiat currency system
- will ultimately fail.

Re the O'Barmy meeting with all the Dept heads.

- I strongly believe that had the 10-Year bond roared through a 3% yield, that really would have unleashed chaos in the derivatives market.
- Once there is an explosion in the derivatives markets, it becomes a cascading series of blowups and it completely destabilizes the entire financial system.

So there was clearly an intervention in bonds,
- and that has delayed the inevitable, at least in the short-term. T
- his was entirely predictable, but does it make any difference in the long-term? No.
- At some point there is going to be a collective realization that the money is being destroyed, and that interest rates are materially too low.

The bottom line here is
- that Western central planners don’t have a plan that works,
- and the longer-term ramifications of their interventions will prove to be even more disastrous.”

Meanwhile, as all of this chaos is unfolding, Western central planners are desperately trying to avoid
- the inevitable collapse that is coming.”




gazkaz - 27 Aug 2013 17:55 - 738 of 1034

France, Russia and Turkey were among ........15 central banks
- who added gold to their foreign exchange reserves in July,
(IMF data showed today).

Russia expanded their gold reserves for a.... 10th straight month in July.
- Russian holdings, the seventh-largest by country, gained another 6.3 metric tons to 1,002.8 tons.
- Kazakhstan’s reserves also rose for a....... 10th straight month
to 1.1 tons to about 132 tonnes.
- Azerbaijan added 2.009 tonnes to bring its holdings to 10.023 tonnes in July.
- Turkey lifted its gold holdings by 22.5 tonnes,
the biggest increase seen among 15 central banks.
(Turkey now has the world’s 11th-largest gold reserves as its holdings rose to 464 tonnes in July from 441.5 tonnes in June. The country’s central bank last year allowed commercial banks to hold a portion of their lira reserves in gold).

France even bought 1,000 troy ounces of gold.
The Bank of France has made a few such purchases in recent months.

gazkaz - 27 Aug 2013 18:01 - 739 of 1034

When mainstream commentators who regularly appear on...the sunshine blowing machines, such as CNBC, give this advice in an interview
- it must be getting bad

Famed investor Jim Rogers says,
- “This is the first time in recorded history all the banks are printing money at the same time.
- This is the first time we’ve had massive debasement,
- and it’s going to end very badly .......no matter what they say.”

Rogers, who has written books on global investing, says,
- “Banks are not going to be lending.
- Financial markets are going to go down.
- Currency markets are going to be in great turmoil.
It’s not going to be any fun.”

And if the money printing continues, Rogers says,
- “You’ve got bubble in some sectors,
- you have inflation,
- and then you have interest rates going up.
- Currency markets are in turmoil,
- and it’s a mess because printing money is artificial.

It’s never worked.”

As the economy slows down, Rogers predicts,
- “They’re going to take money wherever they can. . . .
- They’re going to take our bank accounts
- and retirement accounts.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buDsxcFcdko
(11 mins &..... minus his customary - bow tie)

Rogers concludes by saying, “We’ve had perilous times,
- and it’s going to get worse. . . It’s coming, be worried, be careful.”

snurkle1 - 28 Aug 2013 05:58 - 740 of 1034

Morning all.
Gaz good to see you have survived the weekend. I hope it was a memorable one.
Squirrel, are you still in the UK or have you traveled back to the ME? If so, what is your experience right now as to what is going on there. Have you seen a change between when you left and come back?

I have 2 excellent links from Bill Holter. He is currently 1 of my favorite writers as he asks the questions and points out the flaws and the potential consequences.... all in idiot fashion speak so even I can understand it :-)

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/why-syria-why-now


http://blog.milesfranklin.com/permanent-backwardation-the-two-tier-market

The other writer is Jeff Nielson. 2 great pieces from him too.

http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/gold-commentary/26305-chinas-golden-feast-on-western-folly

http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/intl-commentary/26307-western-real-estate-bubbles-exposed

snurkle1 - 28 Aug 2013 06:10 - 741 of 1034


Just watched George Galloway on Max keiser, talking about his new documentary 'the killing of Tony Blair'
Interesting stuff as I can't stand TB. He is indeed a war criminal and this potential documentary I would love to see. Here is the link to the Max keiser bit .

http://12160.info/video/the-killing-of-tony-blair-george-galloway-max-keiser

mabel - 28 Aug 2013 09:42 - 742 of 1034

gaskaz,

I did not watch your video about Syria. I thought it would contain more pictures of dead bodies of children and distraught people and I just couldn't stomach it.

When I caught up with the comments on the gold thread, this morning, I scrolled back to view, only to find the video has been removed by the user.

mabel

snurkle1 - 28 Aug 2013 09:54 - 743 of 1034

Anyone noticed this in the msm?

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html

gazkaz - 28 Aug 2013 12:06 - 744 of 1034

Hi Mabel

No blood and guts fortunately, just packed with info

As you know I rarely post over there now but thought the video good enough for a whirl over there, as a current hot topic.

Steve has posted that the orignator has taken it down - as the hacked info contained within a wealth of other info - may have been planted dissinfo, or could be genuine.

(Quite common Tavispook tactic - strawman style - if the planted info gets discredited....Joe P - for some reason thinks the other 99% is suspect to. Sad but is a time proven tactic - that works).
- so at the moment whilst he checks it out - he has removed the video.

The other 99% of the actual content is still damning and stands on it's own credit.

Fortunately some kind soul - expected a takedown (one way or another :o)
- and re-uploaded a copy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK5vUo6Ed38&feature=youtu.be

I posted links - over there - re those provided with the original video
- (backing up the "other 99% content)

gazkaz - 28 Aug 2013 12:16 - 745 of 1034

Snurkle
- National Service reaching its - second reading in parliament !!
(& whizzed thro stage one....without debate)

No I think the MSM totally - buried that one

A good spot

(sign of things to come - solving youth unemployment - injecting them with lots of military grade infertillity stuff and brainwashing as a bonus - obviously TPTB hope to bump a few off in some conflict or other too, as well as those on t'other side)

mabel - 28 Aug 2013 12:32 - 746 of 1034

gaz,

I did watch the copy and also passed it on to a friend who does not believe that it could be anyone other than the Syrian government who used the chemical weapons.

Are you inferring that there could also be some mis info in that video, deliberately placed there, to be found and discredited?

mabel

gazkaz - 28 Aug 2013 12:52 - 747 of 1034

Blow yer socks off with this one
- Dr Lorraine Day

A Genuine - orthodox mainstream med school trained and qualified - orthopaedic surgeon
- who has worked her whole career - in the orthodox "medical system"
( quite a while - now pushing 70)

Gives terrific - insight into what they are told at Med School - re orthodox - current
- cancer ...treatments & therapy
- that - they - don't tell...you

What Doctors know & talk about "amongst themselves about.... Cancer"
- that they - don't tell you.

And a bonus
- how she rejected...orthodox/mainstream treatment/therapy
- and cured
- her own "Grapefruit size" breast cancer
- using - alternative - treatment
- is still alive & full of energy....15yrs later
- and....totally cancer free
- and...how she did it too !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0DYhyCu3DQY

She gives God & the bible - due credit along the way too
- but if you are not of that persuasion, then
- the factual side alone .....is well worth watching

This is "one of - their own"
- spilling the beans

gazkaz - 28 Aug 2013 14:36 - 748 of 1034

central bank gold reserves -vs- gold price
- bit of a correlation in the - trend change point


gazkaz - 28 Aug 2013 16:05 - 749 of 1034

Mabel - steve across there has posted... to the effect
- the author of the video itself - has been given possible doubt - that
- only... the info he refers to in the video - as having been obtained thro' - hacking
- may..not be authentic

Rather than risk, what may..turn out to be.... a non authentic element - ruining the rest of the information contained in the video
- he has taken the video down
(I assume - he may remake it without the hacked info element).

Unfortunately it is a common tactic, that - he may have innocently fallen foul of.

Much dis-information, mis-information, mis-direction is seeded on the internet by TPTB.

If such dodgy information is then inadvertenly included along with genuine information,( by a bona fide writer or Y/tube poster) and....

- the bulk of the genuine content gets - a little too popular,... so as to embarrass TPTB

They step in - and debunk - their own seeded mis-information element.

This then... dicredits all rest of the - genuine nifo
(& sadly - it works like a dream).

Commonly known - as setting up a strawman
(Burn the strawman dis-info......and the rest of the good information ...burns with it).

Whether the hacked info quoted... is true or false - may never come to light
- but if now - in doubt - better to leave it out.

In all honesty he could have just quoted any of the well known FalseFlags to support the Syria Chem Weps false flag
- Sinking of Lusitania - got US into WW I
- Peal Harbour - Got US into WW II
- Gulf of Tolken Bay - Got US into Vietnam
- Twin Towers - Got US into the manufactured - war on terror
(If you haven't ever seen "the other" untouched building 7 - just drop in freefall on you/T it's worth looking up)

The story of the attempted sinking and failed falseflag - USS Liberty
- is well worth looking up on youT too.
- there are some excellent documentaries on there
- the attempted sacrifice of a US Ship & all its crew - to, shall we say a US friendly nations planes
- fortunately a Russian ship caused break off of the attack
- and hence.....there are survivors....to tell the story.

mabel - 28 Aug 2013 17:44 - 750 of 1034

Many thanks gaz.

mabel

Saturn6 - 28 Aug 2013 19:53 - 751 of 1034

This may shed some light on the ME scenario unfolding...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izz8cISo5Ts&list=PLjZcd8HwA5eOmmEAVXzSqewRA33owzQa2&index=8

16Mins in.

S.

Saturn6 - 29 Aug 2013 09:03 - 752 of 1034

It is easy to understand why they would want National Service, if the agenda was for 'a large scale war against the Middle East with the ultimate goal of a complete invasion and massacring millions of inhabitants.'

Why...'I have now received information from the same source, that the next big attack on U.S. soil will be chemical and biological, to be carried out soon.'

http://henrymakow.com/

'Only Christ can save us now. '

Get to know Him NOW!!...And with a repentant heart ask Him for His forgiveness.

'Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about
to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.' (Luke 21:36)

S.

Saturn6 - 29 Aug 2013 09:13 - 753 of 1034

October 1st.??/...

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/fema-preparing-major-event-region-iii/

S.

mabel - 29 Aug 2013 09:23 - 754 of 1034

Just watched the Dr. Lorraine Day item and very impressed, and she looks an amazingly young 69 years old.

I find it difficult to go along with the God thing, but the nutrition bit makes so much sense. The only thing is, how difficult is it to be that disciplined to eliminate all the goodies, and stick to a diet of plants and juices etc.

I've been doing the 5-2 diet since March and I know how difficult it is to stick to that, so I can imagine this vegan diet to be a hundred times more so.

It does seem to be the case though, that when someone is faced with the cancer diagnosis, they are so frightened that they almost unfailingly go for the chemo - something they know doesn't work.

gazkaz - 29 Aug 2013 15:04 - 755 of 1034

Mabel
- Yes it's good to hear the inside track....from one of their own
- who is med school trained and qualified and;
- spent her whole career in - the orthodox, maistream medical system

The revelation is when she says they are ....."Told in med school"
- that conventional treatments (Chemo/radiation).....don't work

- and her statement...that cutting/chopping bits out...
- doesn't work either
- and a few other insights too

As to the "God Thing" - the natural cures have worked
- for believers, athiests & atheists

Personally I think that - either belief in gods hand, self belief, or positive mental attitude...that the natural cure will work
- is a large element of.... part of the cure... process

As you know I read...quite a lot
- and commonly cutting out sugar, grains, processed foods meat, oxygenation, alkalising the body, raw vegetables, vit C etc etc
- can often bring about - getting the all clear in as little as....
.....just a few months

A prime example

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-cures-himself-of-cancer-using-1325900

And the above all clear cure in - just 4 months
- was ....after
- he & his immune system....was blitzed by the mainstream chop surgery, poison chemo; and
- he was.... sent home to die

Reading between the lines - I think the doctor in her early attempts
- did the raw veg juicing, but continued a close to standard diet
- then took steps closer
- and not until on her last legs - did the full monty approach.
(Which is - possibly - why it took so long)

Whereas - the above grandad - went straight into - the full monty approach, hence speed of the cure.

I suppose after - the cure - whether you stick rigidly to "the full monty" process for life is a personal choice
- probably predominantly full monty - but with ....moderations of the standard diet.....may do just as well
(it offten takes 50/60yrs abuse to befall cancer - so perhaps after an all clear...you could even chance.....another 50/60yrs worth of... total food abuse :o)
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