Scripophilist
- 27 Oct 2004 23:40

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Harlosh
- 26 Jan 2005 22:36
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Wish I could Steve.
These appointments are like gold dust I'm afraid. I also see the consultant a couple of weeks after and he wants the results of the scan. I'm a bit sick. Been looking forward to it. We will DEFINATELY do it next time. I hope!
Fundamentalist
- 26 Jan 2005 22:39
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John
looks like saturday march 26th then
Harlosh
- 26 Jan 2005 22:41
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"I think I just let my emotion get in front of my better judgement and experiance."
It's comforting to know one's mentor can occasionally be like the rest of us.
Harlosh
- 26 Jan 2005 22:51
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Talking of indiscipline.
I listen to the commentary from the Ladrokes website when I'm trading the horses.
Mick Millard mentioned a horse today that had changed the type of fences he jumped over. Said it had a good chance if it liked it's new obstacles.
For the first time whilst playing Betfair I thought 'what the hell', and put a tenner on it for the fun of it.
It came in at 16.5. 155 profit. Very nice. But I won't do it again!!
Harlosh
- 26 Jan 2005 22:54
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Steve, that should be OK if it's fine by you thanks. Look forward to it.
Pinsticker
- 26 Jan 2005 23:02
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Yes, you would be guaranteed a win of 17.1 for putting up a stake of 1332.
What is the opportunity cost of your stake? - it is tied up until the start of voting! - and the election date hasn't even been confirmed yet!
Not the greatest example of sensible money management.
Harlosh
- 26 Jan 2005 23:34
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Pinsticker,
Of course your right.
What I am really getting at is if Betfair would honour the trade in view of the fact that IDS is no longer the Tory leader. Because he isn't I couldn't lose unless there was something in the small print which allowed them to void markets placed in error.
Mind you the Tories could always re instate him as leader. Yawn!
Scripophilist
- 27 Jan 2005 09:36
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Re : The general election there is a market on the date of the general election and it is heavily bias to Q2 so you can hedge the position out using that position to guarentee a winner. It's a bit like the US presidential election example I gave at the course.
Scripophilist
- 27 Jan 2005 09:37
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"It's comforting to know one's mentor can occasionally be like the rest of us."
You are either perfect or a liar and nobody is perfect.
Harlosh
- 27 Jan 2005 09:47
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Laid Federer at 1.12 hoping for a comeback by Safin.
Harlosh
- 27 Jan 2005 09:54
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Got it too.
Scripophilist
- 27 Jan 2005 12:06
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Another cracking match. All green and disciplined today!! Over 7m traded already and one more set to play. Haven't made much but its mine, its tax free and it only took 5 mins.
bakko
- 27 Jan 2005 13:37
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Been following this match since the third set. What a titanic game!!!
Not as disciplined as you, Scrip as you greened up. I was collecting lots of ticks with Federer throughout the 4th set when they won each of their respective service games. Nearly had all my hard work undone when Safin had a match point, had to close my eyes and pray at that point!
Continued to scalp Federer in the final set but towards the end I bottled out and switched over to Safin. Took the risk and it paid off.
Will have to green up in future!
chartist2004
- 27 Jan 2005 13:45
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Gooday all- got up too late to be on the Fed/Saf match, looking at the odds chart 'could have' backed Saf @ 15 x 125 then Fed @ 12 x 160 greened up at over 1,500! profit, if only..
I find this Betfair trading much easer than spread or stock trading.
From last Fri I'm up over 1500%..
Scripophilist
- 27 Jan 2005 13:55
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"I find this Betfair trading much easer than spread or stock trading."
It is and I find there are many wonderful aspects of Betfair. No transaction fees is one of them also when you lose you don't have to. It's great.
11.295m traded on that one game! A real cracker. Was on audio conference with a tennis expert and he has walked away with a five figure gain from that match. Mainly thanks to Federer getting down to 1.02. He used free money he made from Federer to lay him at 1.02 at walked away with a huge pay day. He is now down the pub for the rest of the day.
Fundamentalist
- 27 Jan 2005 14:19
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a steamer in the 2.10, a nice drifter in the 2.20 - lets hope it continues like this
Scripophilist
- 27 Jan 2005 14:35
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Some good action out there this afternoon.
Fundamentalist
- 27 Jan 2005 15:34
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Horse racing going from good to better this afternoon - hope you are all filling your boots - i know i am
note to self - must stay disciplined!!!!!
Harlosh
- 27 Jan 2005 17:29
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Been out all day so missed the racing. Sounds like a better day than the last couple of days. At least I found them hard anyway.
I know it's been said before but this issue of discipline is the single most important factor in trading Betfair, just as it is in the stockmarket. Many people talk about finding an edge, that je ne sais quoi that gives you an advantage over others. For most of us on Betfair I think that is discipline.
If I had maintained 100% discipline since I started I would have made a small fortune. As it is, my gains are more moderate, although still fantastically good.
There must be thousands of punters on Betfair who haven't had the benefit of having discipline rammed down their throats as one does when trading the stockmarket. Many of them probably don't even know that it is discipline that causes them to lose, not necessarily their poor selection of horses or whatever.
It took me years to learn the stockmarket and there is still more I don't know, than I know. Yet with Scrip's course and a little help from Fundy I am up and running in a fraction of the time and at a fraction of the cost.
Now I know the theory. I've just written about it. Now I have to put it into practice. :-)
whyallasteve
- 27 Jan 2005 18:33
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I am considering enrolling with Betfair - who offer a 20 bonus to anyone with a betfair account who recommends somebody (ie ME). You should have a unique referral code somewhere to give to me to enrol with. After that, once I've spent/bed 100.00 both you and I get a 20.00 Bonus each and promise of future bonuses!
Seems a shame not to take advantage of their offer - Any takers?