I bought shares in this company at 4.5p in September 2003. I see they are rising. Can anyone tell me please the growth potential for this company as they have just been awarded several new contracts ?

A few points of reflection and speculation on yesterday's RNS.....

...was the 15.25 price in the RNS known before the market closed ?

...did the mm's 'manage' the market to that price ?

...was the 15.25 just where the market left the price that day as a result of the buy/sell activity ?

...if yesterday had been a more bullish day on the markets..could the price in the RNS have been 16/17/18/19/20p or whatever ??

...we know the mm's have struggled to contain the demand for this stock...the words 'discount to' can usually be relied on to stem demand for a while...was that wording at the mm's request ??

...the words 'expected to be at a discount to' appear to leave the whole pricing question completely open still...could be lower or higher than Friday's price...who knows ??

...the words 'The Company has now begun the process of undertaking a placing to institutional and other investors' seems to confirm that the price and amount has not yet been finalised...and could therefore be a variety of combinations to raise up to 2.5m...or maybe more if oversubscribed...or at a better price...who knows ??

So lots of questions still left open by the RNS in my view !!

Morning all,

SueHelen,

Your views are remarkably similar to the views I've expressed over on the ADVFN board. What an amazing coincidence! They appeared around a half hour after I posted them too!

What makes you think they'll be over 50p by xmas?

Roll on next week!

A

Good week ahead ....... bit of turbulance expected, troublemakers will post as well, so don't be surprised.
Share price will quickly spring back from Fridays close......but please expect initial shake as the MM's try to frighten you!
Check in to my regular posts on the other board, along with gameboy and the rest of the team.

Best wishes to all

AXE

i realized that CMS is one of the most investor discuss and argue in the thread

axe 79 - will do. Some characters over there! but I like that there is more frequent posting which is good during the shaky times! Good to find you and game_boy over there. Simply put, my understanding of the situation from posts I've read from Sue, yourself and game_boy is that CWV have a fantastic pitch to present to investors; investors always want a deal; if the announcement regarding share issue is made first and THEN the contract news, those investors are almost guaranteed a very fast northward movement on their investment.
So nothing to worry about and it's all as predicted and expected.
Or am I missing some fundamental part of the picture?
Regards
Anna

anna...no your not.....Theres a few of us that are full time traders, we make our living trading! We try to give the readers real time solid info, and protect them as best we can from those who have questionable motives. It is not as polite as over here, and its sometimes gets hard to keep the board in check, but thats part of the fun. You are welcome to join in anytime. I remember you saying that you have 200k invested, don't think there's any reason for you to be worried, for what my take is worth.

Have an enjoyable week end, and speak to you Monday

AXE

CWV price next friday close?
any guess.... 10p or 20p

My take is closer to 20 than 10 by the end of the week....watch out for paranoid behaviour on Monday though !!!

test (nm)

Optimistic ppl will say 20p
Pessimistic and trouble maker will say 10p

I'd say 22-25p by next Friday

one more optimistic ppl

I'd say 10p if no news maybe less

My experience of companies raising money, is short term the the price will drift and trade just above the placing price.As it appears retail investors will not be involved in the placing there will no rush to buy to get involved.
Imho the price will drift lower until a price is announced.keep an eye on volume over the next few weeks good indicator.

i think it is staggering to the point of near immorality that there are people who are posting on this board,who clearly have a very vested interest in keeping this share price as high as possible,for what are clearly their own personal reasons.the same people are posting on advfn......and more than likely other boards as well.be mindful of what happened a couple of years ago,when doubtless the same people were dominating these boards with mindless ramping of penny shares.

i am making this comment,albeit reluctantly,as it seems to me that many people here are gambling rather than investing.this has been pointed out by one intelligent poster on here.

i am an interested party,in that i have been a customer of cms for the past eight years,until the spring of this year when the satellite ddf.feed was discontinued.i am not a shareholder,and never have been.i am not interested in gambling.for the avoidance of doubt,and to allay suspicion of my motives for writing this,which are altruistic.....my portfolio contains..
pz cussins....formerly paterson zacchonis
forth ports
belhaven group
hornby
greggs
peter hambro mining
persimmnon..............plus a few more...

....all i would say those who are holders at prices higher than friday's close....be very careful.

25p by friday

eildon hills...what a true knight in shining armour you are...coming to the defense of all these innocent investors who you have nothing but altruistic thoughts for....and what a coincidence that you have appeared in the last 3 days as the price has retraced....also under your other pseudonym of douglas fir on the other BB you refer to...I have nothing but contempt for you now !!

I will also copy my post here to the other BB as well so people are clear on my own thoughts of your behaviour... you seem to have taken offence at our justified and robust challenge of your comments over the past few days.....we have not questioned your statement of being a CWV customer....that may be correct although I now have serious doubts whether any of what you say is true....however that does not mean per se that you have any knowledge at all of the business fundamentals and future potential of CWV...if you had then surely you might have had an inkling to buy in at 2-3p a few months ago....you would now be sitting on a tidy profit and no doubt have a different perspective on CWV....

You have accused people such as myself and axe79 of what you now call 'immorality'...and yet I would ask anyone on this board or ad vfn to give their views on who is being 'immoral' in their behaviour... I think you may find that over the past few weeks holders of CWV will have realised that axe and I have researched CWV in depth and have made countless statements as to why we believe the future of this company is superb...we have been doing this from when it was 3p right up to when it went over 20p....and continue to hold this stock now.....whereas you have made it clear you are not a holder....and if you think any of us believe you spend your time wandering these boards as the saviour of misinformed investors...go get a life m8 !!!

E hills...why do you hid behind several names....have you forgotten your real one, douglas fir tree and god knows the others. Could you please provide us with the list.

eildonhills is a known deramper from the ADVFN board where he posts under the alias "douglas fir" - BEWARE!

So why would someone go to the trouble of posting to CWV threads on various bulletin boards all over the Internet and expressing pessimistic views as a NON-SHAREHOLDER?

Obviously he/she/they are trying to make you all sell, resulting in the share price dropping so they can buy in as cheaply as possible. I have seen this attempt time and time again on these boards.

Fortunately, this is a possitive sign since it shows just how keen investors are to come on board this company and the lengths they will go to.

One thing is for sure, I never EVER sell shares in a company while there are vultures like that mounting a dedicated campaign to get on board. The more they post, the more convinced I am that I have something worth holding on to.

Lets keep this from the personal.

A market is made up of the collective conscious of buyers and sellers. I urge those on this board with sensible, informed comment to engage in debate with facts and research.

Not this incessant ramping, de-ramping nonsense. That is most certainly not investing and it clouds the story for serious investors in this company of which there are obviously some on this board.

CMS has a growth story - fact.

It's the pace of that growth story we should be focussing on, and its translation into bottom line profits, earnings per share, p/e ratios, value? those kinds of things.

If May 04 profits come in at 500,000 for example, a price of 50pence puts the stock on a p/e of 63 times. I merely ask the question are other investors comfortable with that kind of valuation?