Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

if trump gets elected, then possibly not
i don't see that brexit makes any difference

The BBC have just reported on the Iraq governments attempts to retake
the city of Mosul, and the reporter stated "the Iraq government are attempting
to displace the 'suicide bombers'...Suicide bombers??, they have being occupiers,
how can they be called suicide bombers in that location?, When they're blowing
up bombs in Europe they can be called 'suicide bombers', but why the feck are
they describing them that way in Mosul?...

Typical BBC...

kamikazi doesn't fit in this instance :-)

GB,

"Yes well of course in the run up to the referendum we were told if we
voted LEAVE Putin would be over the moon, the sames now being said
with the implication that if the voters of the US vote for Trump then
that would please the Russians."


What suits Putin is a disjointed or fragmented European opposition looking after its own nationalistic "needs" or "wishes", rather than a coordinated opposition to its "imperialistic" machinations.

Like Cameron, until he fails he will do anything to stay in power and many of his actions are for his "home" consumption.

-=-==

Manuel,

I think the USA is slowly saying to the hell with waging into overseas arguments and would prefer to be trying to restore its own economy and deal with its problems via use of a strong economy.

Clinton may be more willing to intervene than Obama but god only knows what Trump thinks or believes. (I have less belief in his utterances than a belief in a deity.

Remember USA did not enter WW2 until December 1941 and only then when they were "attacked" by Japan.


Wiki.
"After the bombing of the US Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor in December 1941, only one congressman opposed the declaration of war; the vote in the senate was unanimous. Hitler’s declaration of war on the US, which came four days later, was actually a blessing in disguise for Roosevelt; it enabled him to legitimately pursue a ‘Germany first’ strategy. In November 1942, "

fred - i don't entirely disagree, but the world has changed immeasurably in the last 75 years ....... the average american remains appallingly uninformed and isolationist, but the events of 9/11 proved that this was no protection against extremists ..... america of course has plenty of its own, and i don't meant muslims, but rather white supremacists and similar

============

to amuse and horrify .....
in a television interview a couple of days ago, the indy presidential candidate was asked his opinion of aleppo ...... having asked for the question to be repeated and then mumbled for a several seconds, he was forced to ask, "what is aleppo?"

Time has passed.

However, basic instincts and emotions have not.

Modes of expression of these two "driving forces" have been modified, but the often unspoken goals have not changed and although sometimes the actions are protective, especially in a more primitive society in more advanced societies they are destructive.

Looking around it seems many are wishing to engage the destructive elements for what they hope is personal self-advancement.

-=-=-=-=

Back to more important things.

Have you a recipe for lamb (Shoulder of Welsh Lamb in Chunks), onions, chestnuts, mixed edible mushrooms, (cheap) red wine, garlic?

To be served with Mustard (? nutmeg) Mashed Potatoes. and ? Celeriac.

must the mushrooms REALLY be edible? :-)
interesting mix of chestnuts with lamb and confess it's not something i have ever tried

your ingredients imply a casserole of some kind

however, given that lamb is now getting quite fatty, you may like to consider very slow roast shoulder
this will not only melt the fat out of the shoulder (pretty fatty even when young), but will also result in meat that is rich and moist and just falling off the bone

mashed potato is always a fave in the colder months, and it can be enhanced in lots of ways - eg add any of the following: fruity olive oil, chopped parsley (lots), yoghurt, garlic etc

instead, you may want to consider giving it a persian twist by serving on a pilau, where again there many variations

Actually, lamb is quite young and lean, but I bought it with Cawl in mind and had cut into chunks.

Already sealed it and surprise how little fat there is.

Will press on, but I am sure I had a dish with the ingredients and I will add a little Rosemary or Thyme.

I can already taste it!

But there must be an Italian recipe.

PS.

I wouldn't allow a fungus to get the better of me.

Re: The Trumpo v Clinton presidential beano...could it be they are both stalking horses?

Both running mates would seem a safer pair of hands.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

try this fred ....... http://www.cliffordawright.com/caw/recipes/display/recipe_id/760/

i never use leg (per recipe) and you should be able to get vacu-packed chestnuts (merchant gourmet) in your supermarket

Eight men have been convicted of sexually exploiting teenage girls in Rotherham.
A five-week trial at Sheffield Crown Court heard how the men "sexualised" their victims and, in some instances, subjected them to acts of a "degrading and violent nature" between 1999 and 2003.
The jury, after more than 17 hours of deliberation, found them guilty of all 19 charges including rape and false imprisonment.
One girl and her family told police, their MP and the then home secretary David Blunkett about the abuse and eventually moved to Spain to get away from the men.
Supposed ringleader Sageer Hussain, 30, of Clough Road, Rotherham, was convicted of four rapes and one indecent assault.
The other seven defendents, other than Basharat Hussain, 40, from Goole, who was convicted of one indecent assault, are all from Rotherham.
Mohammed Whied, 32, of Psalters Lane, was found guilty of one count of aiding and abetting rape; Ishtiaq Khaliq, 33, of Cherry Brook, Rotherham, was found guilty of one rape and three indecent assaults; Waleed Ali, 34, of Canklow Road, Rotherham, was found guilty of one rape and one indecent assault; Asif Ali, 30, of Clough Road, Rotherham, was convicted on one rape; Masoued Malik, 32, of Bridgewater Way, Rotherham, was found guilty of one rape, one count of conspiracy to commit indecent assault and one of false imprisonment; and Naeem Rafiq, 33, of Clarendon Road, Rotherham, was convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit indecent assault and one of false imprisonment.
Professor Alexis Jay's 2014 inquiry, commissioned by Rotherham Borough Council, found at least 1,400 children were subjected to sexual exploitation in the town between 1997 and 2013.
The eight will be sentenced on Friday, 4 November.

More follows
for fred and is left wing libs

Mike Pence is as crazy as Trump

Rosie,

I wonder how many rapes are perpetrated a day in their own homes by white English men and not reported?

But it is good of you to draw my attention to this case.

an awful lot of incest and similar for sure ..... i guess wife-beating doesn't count

Manuel.

Thanks.

I have tried to do something like "your" recipe except using chunks of meat and rosemary, bay and will put Parsley on it just before serving.

It will need to rest overnight.

Chose Chestnuts as I saw them while shopping. Crossed and boiled they peel easily but I have used frozen for stuffing for Pheasant and Chicken.



I think I had similar in Gourdon in my wandering days.

Memories.

Well done to Manchester for giving our Olympic athletes such a great reception. Makes me feel proud to be British. I still hope Liverpool gives them a thrashing tonight. :)

It seems now that UKIP has disembowelled the country it is now disembowelling itself.

have a tip buy lloys now

Fred1new 73984

"I wonder how many rapes are perpetrated a day in their own homes by
white English men and not reported?

cynic 73985

"an awful lot of incest and similar for sure...I guess wife beating dosn't count."


I find them remarks grossly offensive and SPECULATIVELY and spectacularly
misguided accusations...Is that what happens in YOUR household(but then
again you're not white), or your friends and families homes?...And to claim
that and say that these so called crimes are not being reported is egregious
and DISHONEST TO THE EXTREME and disgusting, and how anyone can find
in anyway to agree with such accusations like cynic has done is also reprehensible.

And to say its only man who beat their wives, is just like the two disgusting
post from two idiots...OUTRAGEOUS.. and they should be ashamed of themselves.

And this kind of language is now over the past 25 years comes freely from the
anti white English hating liberal lefty cunts.