Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic. you are correct but change must now come and represent all voters in all issues .

it depends whether or not you like the idea of coalitions
personally, i do not, israel being the best (worst) example of what can happen

even then, you do not end up with a system that "represents all voters in all issues"

then we need to change from voting for a pm to just voting for a party , then they make the laws and can not be over ruled ,

not true ..... if you have a strong party leader, then the leader will provide the impetus and direction of the party - as in any team sport

MT and JC show exactly what happens when one does and (of course) when one doesn't

cynic I ment mps not pm

off to go shopping and lunch

I will be really p*ssed off with my MP if he votes against Brexit as I think our constituency voted over 60% to leave and is the same constituency as in Parliament elections.

the thinking voter might already do either
he might vote for a given party regardless of the quality of the candidate because he does not want the opposition party in power ...... or if the indications are that the ge will go one way or another, he may vote for a specific mp because of that person's previous record and performance

Take your time Rosie ... a year or two would be nice.

dil - so your mp supports article 50, thus honouring the constituency wishes

however, that does not resolve the issues surrounding the detail of any deal reached either on the whole or on individual sections, of which there are many

certainly you cannot vouch for the reasoning behind each individual in your constituency who voted "out", and that reasoning is likely to be or should be manifold rather than just simplistic - eg keep out immigrants

so on those individual issues, how should your mp vote?

c.

Your reasoning is a recipe for doing nothing, which is probably what the troughers want.

If it looks like a stitch up, and that's the way it seems to be heading: I suspect the tories will not survive the next GE. Labour is already a lost cause.

so you think negotiations should not be that at all, but just a diktat?

have you ever run your own business where you had to deal with real clients?
if so, you should have learned something

Negotiations always start off as a diktat, and are then watered down to a mutual agreement.

However, there are always bottom lines, which cant be crossed.


After years of trying to get rid of the nonsense, Call Me failed miserably to get any worthwhile concessions, and so lost the referendum and his job.

Compromise would appear to be for other people.

Haha...A German MP has said the German people should learn to speak arabic..

Don't laugh granny.

If i didn't laugh i'd be crying...LOL!

max - neither dc nor anyone else was ever going to get anything sensible let alone radical from the brussels brigade while uk remained "in" ...... i know fred doesn't agree

while you (and me and the majority of others) are realistic enough to know that uk will never ever get the perfect deal (obvious reasons), the eu itself is also under a lot of pressure so that it does not get skewered from one bunch of eurozone members or another

Hi boys and girls.... There is a thread for the "Brexit" business

Lets have some order, order, order would say the Spiker

Um Chagga Lagga

re - Calais children

There are so many test that can verify their age before they are allowed here.
They suppose to have family on the UK.

1- teeth tested
2- asked the family in UK of the age of the youth, if it matches with the age the youth is saying.
3- contact the country of origin
4 - stop the do gooders interfering on the side of the youth
5 - there was cases on the pass of a youth ( but he was not a youth but over 20 causing a serious assault on a youth once on the UK household refuse)
6- the checks should be done in France once here no chance of sending them back


Dentists condemn call for child migrants' teeth to be tested

A Tory MP's call for child migrants arriving in the UK from Calais to have their teeth tested to verify their ages has been condemned by dentists.

Several unaccompanied children have arrived to join relatives in the UK - amid suggestions they could be adults.
Monmouth MP David Davies said mandatory teeth checks would reassure people but the British Dental Association said it was unethical.

Home Office sources said additional checks will be made in the UK.
BBC assistant political editor Norman Smith said it was understood they will undergo further interviews about their background and their finger prints will be taken to cross check with other records which may contain their age details.

The first children with links to Britain arrived this week, after French authorities ratified a list drawn up by the charity Citizens UK, which is working with the government to bring unaccompanied minors over from Calais.

However, photographs of some of the children have been printed on the front pages of some national newspapers, along with headlines questioning their ages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37700074