Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manuel,

Do you think if Article 50 is invoked and "glorious negotiations" start the UK that it is likely to get more or less favourable "deals" from deals Brussels than it was possible to obtain by negotiating while still a member of the EU?

If somebody was saying to me a "curse on your house" and they are at the same time tearing up any contracts they had made with me, but saying, at the same time they wanted to do deals with me, I think I would be very careful.


Might even tell them to B off.

HE IS OVER 28

I HOPE YOU POSTERS TOOK MY ADVICE AND BOUGHT LLOYS . 40% upside to come

How much does MAM charge per month for L2 ?

On the upgrade page it states £19.99 +VAT per month - but it seems they shorten the month when paid by DD - they have reduced the length of a month by taking payment every 30 days - Have others noticed? Misleading or what - Evey 30 days = 11.73 months per year.

my info is better than that . buy

MaxK, the guy in that picture (74075), is a translator apparently, was shown on
the news?

re - Calais children

Past refugee youths were NOT by over 40%

Since 2006 there have been 11,121 age disputes. Of those, 4,828 were found to have been adults

fred - 74076 - i knew that was your view but i beg to differ

because of the way eu is now set up - ie primarily ruled by germany - there was much less than zero chance of getting the radical changes required while uk remained in

by leaving, i very much hope a catalyst has been provided that will force eu to entirely overhaul swathes of key policies, ranging from fishing through agriculture and of course freedom of movement ..... there are a great many other significant aspects that also need to be changed root and branch

it is interesting that there are already moves to stop complete freedom of movement and to curb the influx of economic refugees ...... i don't think even this would have happened without brexit, though no doubt the bureaucrats will claim otherwise

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as for trade deals, much as eu may want to throw a tantrum, they too cannot afford it, and perhaps less so than uk

on the other hand, they cannot offer too soft a deal either

brussels (germany) is now somewhat between a rock and a hard place, not least because there is already much discontent with the way eu is run from a great many people within eurozone ...... if there was a referendum even in NL, there's a good chance that even they would opt out ..... and we won't even mention all the bankrupt eurozone countries that only survive thanks to brussels largesse

Then I hope the Dutch have more sense than to hold a referendum.

Check % of Total EU GDP to UK and % of UK GDP to EU.

Also, it is easy to say that if we lose EU "deals" and "influence" that the rest of the world will be generous when they think they have the UK over a barrel.


And once again in that the rest of the world is a better place to do deals, why aren't those deals already being done?

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Again, at the moment I think the UK trying to duck its responsibilities regarding "immigrants" from Calais and it is noticed.

But go back 3-4 years and I believe that I suggested the "transit" camps similar to the end of WW2 should have been set.

Those would have given the opportunity to vet "incomers" and sort out "dangerous" elements etc..

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Anyway, I have burnt my apple purée.

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Another thing.

I know both of us pressure cook Beans and lentils and freeze them for later dates.

Just, bought a huge can (East End) (2.5 of Kilo) of pre-cooked Chickpeas.

God knows why.

They appear OK, perhaps a little softer than I like and ready now to be frozen.

Perfect for Houmous and curries and casseroles etc..

I like wandering around Asian and Chinese Supermarkets.

Feel safer when I am in them.

9-)

i never use my pressure cooker for haricots of chickpeas, but they certainly freeze well

btw, many of the lentil family do not need soaking o'night and so not worth cooking off in advance

if you have a pressure cooker, you may want to have a little play with beef short ribs
normally they take many hours of slow cooking, but in a pressure, only 1.25 to 1.5 hours

i've yet to try oxtail so i'm unsure how well the flavour will develop

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reverting back to EU
whatever merkel's (and others) headlines may say, experience tells us that this is rarely more than domestic window dressing
as you and i also know from experience, the real stuff gets done over many many hours, days, weeks and even months behind closed doors

Some Beans lose or reduce their toxins when you soak them.

Chickpeas after soaking over-night take 20mins here or there depending on their age

Red and haricot beans 10-15mins. Etc

I put the in plastic bags and roll them in small amounts for freezing. Easy to snap off required quantities.

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EU,

That was the method of choice, but with the hot heads and loud mouths, fragmentation and false ideas of nationalism and own values, I hope that negotiations are still carried out in that way.

However, I have doubts that what happens will be more than a few tweaks here and there.

Also, have a suspicion that some of the money behind the Brexiters was trying to protect various unspoken of financial arrangements. (Taxation, and overseas investments.)

the prob with pressure cooking pulses, is that they go mushy if o'cooked
doing them on the hob is easier in that respect, taking perhaps an hour

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EU
time will tell
as for your appallingly cynical view in the last para, i have no doubt that there are more than handful of both persuasions who are up to all sorts of shenanigans

the markets are playing it.

Fred keeps on repeating something that's already been discussed and answers
given, so it's obvious he does not read posts properly, only what he wants to
read, ie:

"And once again that the rest of the world is a better place to do deals, why aren't
those deals already being done?."

They are but only after they get permission from the 27 other EU countries
and with an export tariff put on.

And cynic is still under the illusion that the EU is in the process of reform, where
is this evidence?.

pot and kettle .... try reading what i wrote

And the UK is NOT avoiding their responsibility by not taking the hordes
in from Calais.

By the RULES of the EU these immigrants SHOULD be claiming asylum in the
first EU country they arrive in, French is a safe country they should be applying
there, if the French authorities are unwilling to send them to the original country
they set foot in then on their head be it.

Yes i have, and most of it is contradictory!!

ROSIE - are you going to start telling us again what a wonderful chap trump is?

what a truly awful choice the poor amis have
if this wasn't such a serious issue, you'ld think the scenario came from some parody film


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GB - contradictory like what for example?

The mass of immigrants coming from Africa/Asia has not stopped they
are still getting ferried into europe, they are NOT being stopped from
coming, or turned back, so how are the EU going to get any control of
their borders...THEY AREN'T!!!

now give the post reference to show that i had said any such thing .... or are you not even bothering to try to support the allegation you made about me?