Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Yes i have, and most of it is contradictory!!

ROSIE - are you going to start telling us again what a wonderful chap trump is?

what a truly awful choice the poor amis have
if this wasn't such a serious issue, you'ld think the scenario came from some parody film


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GB - contradictory like what for example?

The mass of immigrants coming from Africa/Asia has not stopped they
are still getting ferried into europe, they are NOT being stopped from
coming, or turned back, so how are the EU going to get any control of
their borders...THEY AREN'T!!!

now give the post reference to show that i had said any such thing .... or are you not even bothering to try to support the allegation you made about me?

h/t to leeds across the road.



Scots ready to pay into EU budget to keep single market access





By Alastair Macdonald | BRUSSELS

The Scottish government believes that contributing to the EU budget might be a price worth paying for keeping Scotland in Europe's single market if the broader British state leaves as part of its Brexit deal.

Fiona Hyslop, the external affairs minister, told Reuters during a visit to Brussels on Wednesday to meet EU politicians that the devolved administration in Edinburgh had already calculated that remaining in the single market would mean Scotland being a net contributor to the European Union budget.

"We understand that Scotland would be a contributor," she said when asked if Scotland, whose citizens voted to stay in the EU in June, would be willing to pay dues to the EU for market access, even if the United Kingdom is no longer a member.



More loonytunes here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-idUKKCN12J2K5

cynic , my answer if those two are the best of the yanks then they need help big time .
Clinton is a sick joke a liar and a vile human
trump at least is honest and as guts and speaks the truth

all new immigrants must be settled in Scotland ,

far from convinced trump is honest, but certainly clinton is (also) a pretty unpleasant specimen
neither should be let anywhere near the oval office, and i think many of the more intelligent amis think likewise

Scott Macnab: Scottish slump not down to Brexit

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/scott-macnab-scottish-slump-not-down-to-brexit-1-4262052

When the Alex Salmond made history almost a decade ago by winning power at Holyrood and becoming Scotland’s first pro-independence leader he immediately sought to bolster the country’s economy. Scotland’s growth must be brought up to the same level as the rest of the UK, the former oil economist proclaimed. He judged that prosperity and the job security that follows was the best way to show Scots how a Nationalist administration could be trusted with the reins of power. And in fairness to Salmond he did exactly this. For the bulk of his time in office Scotland’s growth largely matched, and often topped that of the UK, providing an economic platform which the Yes side could camapign on in the 2014 referendum. Fast-forward two years and a widening gulf is now once again emerging between the economies of Scotland and the rest of the UK. The growth rate north of the border is now a third of that being experienced UK wide, official figures last week showed, and the situation is only predicted to get worse in the year ahead. The oil and gas industry crisis which has hit the country’s growth so badly in the last couple of years can hardly be laid at the door of Nicola Sturgeon. The First Minister has admitted that the downturn in the North Sea has left Scotland facing an “economic shock”. But it comes as Ms Sturgeon has taken to issuing weekly clarion calls for Theresa May to set out her plans for Brexit and bemoaning the lack of action to deal with the fall-out from the shock EU referendum vote. Meanwhile, business organisations north of the border like the Chambers of Commerce and the Federation of Small Businesses warned last week that more needs to be done here in Scotland to address the slide which saw growth of 0.7 per cent in the year to June – compared with 2.2 per cent across the whole of the UK. Perhaps most worrying, Scotland’s economy actually shrunk by 0.1 per cent in the first three months of the year. The other flagship target of the SNP Government to match the growth rate of smaller independent EU countries has also hit the buffers.



Scotland’s GDP was 3.3 per cent lower than these countries in March this year. That means jobs and livelihoods for working Scots struggling at a time of ongoing austerity. It prompted the former Scottish Government advisor Professor John McLaren to warn last week that if the flatlining Scottish picture had been replicated across the UK, the Bank of England governor Mark Carney would almost certainly be looking to step in to address the situation with measures like interest rate cuts. Of course, action to tackle the slump in Scotland in recent years has been taken by the Scottish Government. The First Minister herself unveiled a national action plan in February aimed at reviving Scotland’s dwindling manufacturing base after a spate of closures saw the disappearance of long-established Scottish factory bases for Texas Instruments in Greenock and Polaroid Eyewear in West Dunbartonshire. Entitled A Manufacturing Future for Scotland, it set out how ministers aimed to increase investment in the sector in order that it can “compete globally”, along with a centre of excellence and skills academy for the next generation of “makers.” And although this sector then showed some growth between March and June, it was only half the UK rate of 1.6 per cent. More worryingly for Scotland – once such a manufacturing powerhouse with its shipbuilding and heavy industry heritage – the role of our “makers” shrunk by 3.6 per cent over the year, while showing growth of 1 per cent across the UK.



The latest national economic strategy unveiled by Ms Sturgeon and John Swinney pledged to “foster a culture of innovation” to develop the future technologies which would provide the economic bedrock for the years. But a report by the First Minister’s hand-picked team of economic guru’s last week warned that Scotland now “lags behind the leading regions of the EU” both in terms of introducing new innovations and benefiting from the wider economic boost. The Council of Economic Advisers said Denmark, Sweden and Finland were among the nations which have higher innovation levels than Scotland and said a review is now needed of the way government in general supports this key sector. And of course, all of these problems long pre-dated the Brexit vote which Ms Sturgeon has shown such urgency in identifying as an economic threat with warnings of a “lost decade.” She set out her own measures to tackle this threat at the SNP conference last week with a tranche of new Government posts being established in Edinburgh and across Europe aimed at boosting trade. The aim is to ensure Scotland is seen as being “internationally competitive” with an “open economy.” But it comes in the week that many of the country’s leading chartered accountancy and finance giants have warned MSPs that “uncertainty” over the tax regime in Scotland could prompt many firms to leave and damage economic growth. Scots middle earners will face higher taxes than elsewhere in the UK under Ms Sturgeon plans next year, while Labour and the Liberal Democrats have set out plans to raise the basic rate of income tax. Labour is also calling for the top rate to be upped to 50p, with Ms Sturgeon saying she is supportive of the idea, but reluctant to introduce it in Scotland alone.

The policy is to be kept under annual review and it is this inclination towards tax hikes from Scottish political leaders which prompted Susie Walker, head of tax at Johnston Carmichael to call for a “fundamentally different approach to avoid a “long term harmful impact on the economy of Scotland”. Other major finance houses also called for greater certainty on the issue as Holyrood takes control over income tax rates and bands next year. The post-Brexit plummeting pound and soaring inflation is certainly a cause for concern, but the underlying economy across the UK remains strong. In Scotland, less so. And it is surely here where SNP ministers should be focussing their immediate concerns.

cynic , thanks we agree , Clintons take 10% of all monies collected into their own accounts , trump all goes to help others he does not take one penny

In reply to cynic post 74095..


cynic 74083

"by leaving ,i very much hope a catalyst has been provided that will force eu
to entirely overhaul swathes of key policies, ranging from fishing through
agriculture and of course freedom of movement"

"it is interesting that there are already moves to stop complete freedom of
movement and curb the influx of economic refugees"

Will that post do?

What you are 'hoping' for is NOT what is actually going on, and NOT what the
eu are planning.

Where is the evidence to back up your claims that "there are already moves to
stop complete freedom of movement" ?????

Who vetted these child immigrants coming in from France ... Stevie fecking Wonder ???

I would suspect its someone from the Open Borders anarchist brigade,
If not then definitely Stevie Wonder...

I see cynic hasn't come back to give any answer's!!

cynic re my MP.

His constituents voted out. He cannot assume what type of out they voted for or wanted so therefore he should just vote to get us out whatever the circumstances. What we did not vote for was out if it was ok with our MP.

Rosie,

Are you sure you are not Tanker with a spelling checker.

The weight of the immigrants from Calaise to the south of England sinking below the waves.

Personally, MPs should vote on "facts" provided for them and according to their consciences.

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re: Dil - 20 Oct 2016 09:55 - 74105 of 74108


Spot on!

Fred1new 74084

""but go back 3-4 years and I believe that I suggested the "transit" camps
similar to the end of WW2 should have been set up"


If anyone else had made a statement like that little fred would have gone
ballistic, accusing them of being a xenophobic, racist, bigot's...LOFL!!!

cynic 74095

"or are you not even bothered to try to support the allegations you made about me"


I've answered them in support of my allegations...In Post 74094/74102...

Whereas, cynic has not provided me with the evidence that the EU are in
the process of curbing the influx of immigrants, or any plans to reform?.

Still waiting!!!!