Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cynic stop being so fecking awkward.

We voted to leave the EU which is the same as out.

Parliament voted for the referendum and everyone was told the consequences of voting out and the first step in the process is invoking article 50.

This is what was voted for and what the government was expected to deliver and now it is in the hands of 600 MP's the overwhelming majority of who don't represent the will of the people.

I've been wondering : when will an organisation, tv channel or radio station come along and declare : "we are not switching to british winter time and all our programs will remain at the same hour as it is/was"......would rock the boat that wouldn't it ?...one of the advantages ...(if there are any) of the Scots becoming independent would be that jolly old England could remain on british summertime forever !......

Dil.

We know what you voted to leave and against staying in the EU, but don't know what you voted for or where you want to go.


I suggest another 300 or so more defined referendums to say what the 17M voters wanted.

And then a few more asking what the previous remainders want.

Forgot, the remainders have forfeited their rights.

what is it with you guys - Dil in this instance - that you are unable to read or listen to the news to grasp the facts?

to digress just a tad ..... it is almost inconceivable that parliament will vote against the signing of article 50, and nor will the lords

however, it is how much parliament can or will or should interfere in the real negotiations thereafter that is a concern
as TM says, who on earth openly divulges their plans and tactics etc before going into negotiations?

Why not?

if you play cards of any sort, do you show your opponent what you're holding?

Fred , we voted out and knew that the government of the day would negotiate whatever deal they saw fit.

What's difficult about that to understand ?

It is not a game!

Although many seem to think it is.

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I didn't see the words "acceptable" and "beneficial" to the majority of the UK.

You seem to assume that the agreement may be OK for some, if it is "acceptable" to those who voted to leave ie. about 40% of the possible voters.

I think all of the UK has the right to know what is being negotiate in their name and not expected to accept a deal they a may know little of.

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I would like to know what leaving the EU will actually mean and the "probable" costs.

If I was subjecting myself to an operation which might have effects on the quality of my life or living standards I would want a detailed informed investigated opinion.

The same applies to evaluating possible consequences of leaving the EU.


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The world markets seemed to consider that the court decision improved the the possibilities for the UK economy.

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It's in the Graun, so it must be true!


What I learned after 100,000 miles on the road talking to Trump supporters


Donald Trump’s message resonates in the most forgotten corners of the US, because viewed from these places, America no longer seems a great country


Chris Arnade

Thursday 3 November 2016 10.00 GMT






Full story: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/03/trump-supporters-us-elections

The report states: “The rape of a ten-year-old girl in Leipzig, the largest city in Saxony, has drawn renewed attention to the spiralling levels of violent crime perpetrated by migrants in cities and towns across Germany.
“During the first six months of 2016, migrants committed 142,500 crimes, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office. This is equivalent to 780 crimes committed by migrants every day, an increase of nearly 40 per cent over 2015. The data includes only those crimes in which a suspect has been caught.
“Thousands of migrants who entered the country as ‘asylum seekers’ or ‘refugees’ have gone missing. They are, presumably, economic migrants who entered Germany on false pretences.
“Many are thought to be engaging in robbery and criminal violence.”
According to Freddi Lohse of the German Police Union in Hamburg, many migrant offenders view the leniency of the German justice system as a green light to continue delinquent behaviour, says the report.

Has the World gone mad?

Have any of you have already ask for an estimate?
For an Underground bunker or for just a basement?


astjgroom 3 Nov '16 - 22:46 - 9197
Now trying to reverse Brexit, Trump, even he loses America is in some trouble, EU is a mess, Russia, Syria etc etc, Wtf.

srpactive 4 Nov '16 - 08:55 - 9198
Yes it is no wonder why all the super rich in London are building
basements, it to ensure they have somewhere very safe for their
families, gold and assets.

ref - US

Most likely what happen here, were people were tired of the EU mis- management so voted for BREXIT

Is happening in America and voting for Trump, regardless of all the careless comments he does, but at least promise some change

P 74426---For someone who can't be bothered to get off his backside and vote you appear to want a lot of information.
2517

may should call a general election and put it to the country ,

once and for all let the people make the decision to allow the gov to govern

May can't just call for a general election. We have a fixed term parliament which no longer allows the PM to simply call for new elections. There has be agreement of 2/3 of MPs or a no confidence vote in the government for new elections to be held before 2020.

yes she can , read facts it says 5 year term , but if the gov can not govern then it can and she can now not govern the courts are

paddy ashdown just speaking remember it is in is interest to stay in . the man is a dishonest , turd

he has just said their will be and election in may , MAY should call one in jan

Rosie,

"but at least promise some change"
So did Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini, Tito, Stalin, etc.

All appealed to the rabble.

Fred , you missed out Corbyn.

I am not as certain about Corbyn as you are.

At the moment the labour party appears a rabble and largely due to a part of it had it nose put out of joint and couldn't accept the election of Corbyn as leader.

The reason for his election appeared to be smart-arsed "in fighting" action of many who thought themselves as the elite of the Labour party and put him forward as a candidate.

I would suggest to them that they start thinking and arguing about policies rather than trying to destroy personalities.

The labour supporters and voters appear disillusioned and apathetic and disconnected from politics as it is practiced at the moment,

That maybe one of the reasons for emergence of the "loony parties" and they appearance of strength.